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vladan !!

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Brilliant! :D it seems the XXI century's most wonderful idea :clapping: :clapping:
And how do we choose who deserves the PM (by high posts numbers, many likes received...) ?

Because we're ever at risk to send the PM to the wrong person :eek:

@klim
its better the risk on % then free for all !!
risk 1%
free for all 99%
take it or live it this is the tru !!
think that when pvu was start to work MTN dont change the k.. for long time , and mtn start first change it every 5 min after on 10 min and now gon . all its going to be the same in the future (even the Ta.....) .
for ex: check afn change the K every 6 hours and they post it here , why?
on dms+vu every one have make it AU sow what is the point to post the K ?
how about if any one wont the K of afn why we give the K and dont help him to fix the reciver to make AU ? sow what is the good think ? dont post the K jast fix the recivers.
on Tanberg is morre worst : on 10 E the mux have the same K long time , you dont need to post the K jast to give the feed , on 7E the last oscam make it AU in 10sec and you dont need to see on sat univers for the K.
 
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dale_para_bajo

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Sorry kebien I did not mean to speculate. But one thing is not see one, the other is none show or post lately.

Regards best way to operate. You know my opinion. For the most part share keys as always. Now for High Value providers please post/share in privately. You know what is a High Value provider because:
1- yes it is what you and all others want.
2- provider fights back, changing keys more than once every two month.
3- provider is the source of new software upgrades!

As how is the best way to share this ones. I have not Idea as we tried and many get upset in the way.

To me it does not matters if we share the key privately with the undercover provider. He will know that only 100 or 1000 or 10,000's people in the whole world Only do. But what bathers them is seen this low cost receivers been sold and then 100,000s in 1 single country not paying TV services!!. So stop coming to this forum to grab keys and re post it some where else. Not to mention people to even post keys on social network like tweeter ot FaceBook.
 

Rickk

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on other boards some restrictions
there you are only 50 - 100 posts in the key area
that might be a small solution.
if you look through the net, which is so distributed with copy and paste, nobody needs to wonder.
 

-=UMAIR=-

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Australian News Channel Added On MTN Worldwide @ 57E The Channel Count Of MTN Jumped To 20

MTN Worldwide
NSS 57.0 E
4095 R 30000
 

swat112

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MTN World works fine in CBAND on 177W, 75E and 34.5W It uses Autoroll PowerVU. You need a big dish to watch them, They changed something on 20W only two channels appear and the rest have no PIDs they appear as data, If we can extract the PIDs maybe we can watch them again.
 

-=UMAIR=-

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MTN World works fine in CBAND on 177W, 75E and 34.5W It uses Autoroll PowerVU. You need a big dish to watch them, They changed something on 20W only two channels appear and the rest have no PIDs they appear as data, If we can extract the PIDs maybe we can watch them again.

Can U PM Me The EMM Keys Through Which It Autoroll PVU At 177w...,ETC
I Want to test it at 57e :eek:
 

fiji

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MTN World works fine in CBAND on 177W, 75E and 34.5W It uses Autoroll PowerVU. You need a big dish to watch them, They changed something on 20W only two channels appear and the rest have no PIDs they appear as data, If we can extract the PIDs maybe we can watch them again.

No MTN Network On 75E ...Only On 57E
 

swat112

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The key will be released when I get confirmation that it's working it is delayed due to bad weather, No need to send tons of PMs for it once it's conformed working I promise it will be released.

No MTN Network On 75E ...Only On 57E
My bad got the numbers mixed up.
 

drhans

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The key will be released when I get confirmation that it's working it is delayed due to bad weather, No need to send tons of PMs for it once it's conformed working I promise it will be released.


My bad got the numbers mixed up.

I'm sorry but to me your statement means you're just messing with us. Otherwise you wouldn't talk about a "key". If you had the slightest idea about what's going on, you would know that the EMM keys never stopped working and it's even possible to get ECM keys quite easily. But just like the EMMs, also the ECMs are now double-encrypted (sort of). Smart people here figured out how to overcome the EMM obfuscation but there's no cure for the EMMs yet. People who don't read this forum now talk about keys and uploading logs, but that's nonsense. What we need is understanding the ECMs.
 

kebien

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drHans
A simple question
Now the time the CW change is not anymore 1 second?
I assume the obfuscation would require some extra time,since they are using different combinations of different ECM parts,and the risk of corrupted or incomplete packets is greater than before.
Is this actually happening?
 

drhans

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drHans
A simple question
Now the time the CW change is not anymore 1 second?
I assume the obfuscation would require some extra time,since they are using different combinations of different ECM parts,and the risk of corrupted or incomplete packets is greater than before.
Is this actually happening?

Yes the CW is still changing every second. During that, the ECM is sent in the stream 7 times. It's the same ECM repeated 7 times, so it's not even possible to tell which bytes are the affected ones.
 

Stefan2k16

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i don't know anything about this mux since I can't even see it from my part of the world, but if i understood the previous discussion this came about as a result of a firmware update that changed the way things were decrypted by possibly adding an extra unknown step to the process and that's the problem. Is this correct? Did anyone capture the firmware update? Was it in the transport stream? In the past I remember sometimes seeing muxes that would seem to be firmware downloads for powervu receivers like the D9850. Those streams would have channel names that suggested this was what they were. Of course I'm not referring to this particular mux here. This is just a general observation from my past years of scanning the skies. Anyway, it would suggest that these firmware updates are typically sent down in the stream. If that's the case would it be possible for someone to capture and disassemble the updates using something like IDA Pro? If so wouldn't that likely be the solution that would yield the most useful information?

Also in addition to finding the new ECM keys or rather how to derive the CWs from those keys, a new EMU that knows how to do this will be necessary as well right? The people who figure this out first might not be too quick to announce this if they are smart because right now this provider is the only one using this new firmware. That means this is likely a test by cisco to see if the hackers can figure it out before they roll it out to everyone. That means if someone does have the solution it might be smarter to sit on it for a while and wait until they start to distribute this to other providers as well. Otherwise they will likely take further action and make things even more difficult before rolling it out everywhere. So, to those who are begging for a solution and/or for keys, maybe there's good reason for those who may be in the know to not release anything just yet. I am not involved in this process and have no firsthand knowledge of it. So, I can't say for sure but that could be a very good reason not to be more forthcoming just yet.
 
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kebien

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Stefan2k16
is probably correct to think nothing should change because only one provider is using a new countermeasure,out of hundred of them.

What is not correct is to think a firmware update can be just downloaded from stream and disasemble it,as it were that easy.
Not having one of the intended receiver for the update,would mean to emulate loading and execution to later analyze what has been written.Lots of knowledge needed.
 

strong5000

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i also tried get EMM of GMA package of 76.5E around 12 hours, also can't get any vaild EMM key, problem not only from MTN package now, very bad news coming soon........
 
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