Images with Bootloader 70 are killing clones

arken

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The Simm card carries the Built Date and serial number of my original box to the Clone.

This means when you telnet into the original or the clone when the box is in setup mode you get access to the BIOS of the box.

On a clone with non original sim it shows the current booloader but as for serial number and Build date it shows as NA. no Data available.
Well if you replace this sim card with an original sim card your clone becames the original including the originals MAC address.
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This is the easiest and secure way to spot a clone so far. Thanks a lot.
 

deadman23

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can confirm that no sim cheap mean no boot, dreambox will just display an error,

anyone got a sim reader? if so try reading the contents

trying to boot into flash mode, i.e keeping on button press gives the same error without the sim card
 

arken

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Dude, this is COMP128-V2 SIM card, you cant just "read" it with $5 cardreader. This card cannot be cloned.
 

deadman23

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Yeah, I realised eventually it was the v2 chip, no chance there then.

Anyway, I managed to install the latest version of Barry Allen on to a clone running nabilosat 0.7 with bootloader 69, bypassing BA's check on new bootloaders, this was the easy part. Don't know how useful that is to anyone



format a usb pen
plugin to dreambox as usual

Download preinst.rar
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7A9MX25M

extract the file preinst - this has the secondstage bootloader check removed
open up your favourite ftp tool, browse into the /tmp folder of the dreambox
now install barry allen ipkg the normal way,
quicky jump into your ftp program, refresh and new directories will be created by BA, quickly overwrite the preinst file,
barry allen should install fine ...



Installing latest images into mb images is a no no, i think it must be the updated drivers that causes it to hang
 
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fced

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Guys, do you know why my the Mac address of my box change, when i install an image with bootloader up to 62 (i tried with gemxxx 3.80, and it's the real mac address of the box, but with any image including bootloader 67 or 69, the mac address change to another address (always same address)...
 

deadman23

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Could this be an avenue -:

Install Barry allen onto a clone box as above
Plug USB into original box and install nabilosat 0.9 as multiboot
Then plug usb into the clone and boot

? How does Barry Allen boot multiboot? Where does it check the second stage bootloader

Whilst installing bh 0.8 on multiboot i was keeping an eye on the directories, mb_images/nabilosat0.8.../tmp and here you will see writenfi and secondstage.nfi , with secondstage.nfi being bootloader 70 or as far as I can tell, i think it is extracted from the image... are these significant?
 
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deadman23

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dreambox 800 will check for the presence of a sim card before it will continue to boot, putting any sim card doesn't work so lets try the following on a clone box

install original sim card into clone and flash new bootloader,

then put the clone sim back in a see if it boots,
 

deadman23

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??

secondstage-dm800-72.bin
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6IA16A69

this file is in binary format, not packaged as a nfi,

can we load directly?

are the check routines still in place on clones when doing it this way



posted by barry allen creator

PS: I could build ipks and nfi files out of the *.bin loader files, because the tools and process is known but DMM has reasons not to post them yet, so why should I annoy them - look at the calender it is weekend, on Monday you will probably get them anyway ?! And if you really want to test this completely new stuff you can follow the procedure from above
 
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deadman23

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new clones are compatible with the latest bootloaders

looks like the sim problem has been solved, existing clone users will need to source the new sims. They are quite easy to install though.

hoping these are provided free of charge by clone providers but it's going to be a cat and mouse game with DMM and may not worth be the hassle in the long term
 

rovigno

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арчи;350949 said:
Try to use loder 72:nana:

hi!
i suppose it doesn't work with new sim on new clone version??
let me know it there are news...

p.s. i contact on line my reseller and he told that he could provide the sim card for me... but i have to wait...

the problem is i don't know how many months...
ha ha
:):nana:
 

topolinik963

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Excuse deadman 23, this metode posted don't work but the folder BA in /tmp it does not exist, I have decompile barry Allen plugin with 7zip and replaced the file preinst, but I do not succeed to recompact barry allen plugin.
Thanks in advanced.
 

hajj_3

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new clones are compatible with the latest bootloaders

looks like the sim problem has been solved, existing clone users will need to source the new sims. They are quite easy to install though.

hoping these are provided free of charge by clone providers but it's going to be a cat and mouse game with DMM and may not worth be the hassle in the long term

where can us UK users get 1 of these new clone dm800's from? thinking of maybe getting a dm800 clone.
 

Brummie

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i have just ordered a clone today from the uk, and person selling them said that the new sims are ok with the latest images and should be with him tomorrow or monday, so i told him not to send me mine until it as the new sim inside it.
 

Brummie

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i am not going to advertise other shops here when we have a satellite shop as our sponsor. so i have sent you a PM :thum:
 

rovigno

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i have just ordered a clone today from the uk, and person selling them said that the new sims are ok with the latest images and should be with him tomorrow or monday, so i told him not to send me mine until it as the new sim inside it.

Please could you ask your reseller if he could sell me only the SIM card?
thank you

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