No more EMM or ECM Patterns??? What Now?
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strong5000
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update your EMM log, maybe some person will help you check later
Before making any move try to see why it shows no patterns.
Log long enough ~20mb.
Rename file to .bin
Use different versions of PVHE.
Also,I assume some people have old logs,you can find keys there.
Try to autoroll with valid emm keys
P 0057180F 00 77929C18096C77 ;
Log long enough ~20mb.
Rename file to .bin
Use different versions of PVHE.
Also,I assume some people have old logs,you can find keys there.
Try to autoroll with valid emm keys
P 0057180F 00 77929C18096C77 ;
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Works fine!! Thanks
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is there a use for ecm keys of feeds that one cannot receive due to logistical reasons?
First, this are not a feed,is mux of many channels.
Second,there is a long thread about american keys in the keys section,and also one for asia,and so on.
I am not sure you realize it took a worldwide effort to get to this point.
Now you think posting ecm keys is of no use if you can't get this satellite?
What about those that can?
My request to post this keys goes more toward helping others in the same situation,it won;t help those in the other side of the world.
But this can surely happen : they provider might blacklist this EMM key and people will come again crying because they lost the channels due to a key change,just as it happened now.
And who's going to help them when they refused to help others in the first place?
Is about the attitude,not about if it is of any use.
Be kind....help others as you've been helped.
Thank you for all you and other members have done .....
biss_whisperer
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so does that mean a feed cant contain two programs?..you say tomato i say tomato, but save yourself the technicalities.
worldwide effort?..maybe for some. i relied on colibri and a small group that can be trusted, but thats about it.
yes, its pretty worthless to have ecm's for a pvu MUX (happy?) that you cant receive.
for those that can receive that mux, you just posted an emm key. they should be able to figure out how to get the ecm from the emm and if they cant they need to learn. there are tools out there to get the job done.
it almost sounds like you are contradicting yourself. why have you not personally posted all your emm pvu keys? the reason emm keys are blacklisted is because people post them in public. post all the ecm's you want..but emm..thats just silly.
You do not need to record anything,you just let powervuemu or oscam to autoroll.
Nothing to record to get the key
Not sure what you mean by hallengin me to post all EMM keys.
Don't you see how many EMM keys re posted in this forum?
And do you know how many of those were blacklisted?,you surely not.
It is clear you do not understand,and keep the keys "protected" by not posting them,clearly an indication that you never have used PVHE and let it run for a week.You get 200 EMM keys at least
Each service like this have maybe 1000 UA....you can never run out of EMM keys.
So,how posting can be affecting the ability to get a new EMM key?
That's silly.
You mean like we ever lost a powervu channel in america so far?
What do you want to prevent? One day it will end,naturally,but you won;t change that date by doing or not doing something.
biss_whisperer
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nobody is getting excited its just common sense.
on dvbn forum colibri said do not post keys in public. we should respect his wishes.
but some people dont listen and even more they are hyprocrites. they say posting keys in public does not matter, yet they have "thousands" of keys that they have not posted. why dont they post if it makes no difference?
i have been monitoring this transponder for the past 24hrs and pid 0x005a has not appeared and may never appear again. the uplinker could be sending it via the web or its always a possibility they will only flip it back on during key changes. its a very simple fix to the hack at the risk of service disruption for legit paying customers.
you could bruteforce the ecm key..good luck. most channels in that mux are available in other locations so why waste the time.
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yes, i see all the emms posted..does that make it right?
listen i am not going to start a feud. you have your opinion and colibri has his..ill side with colibri. he asked that keys not be posted in public on dvbn forum.
no, i do not know how many have been blacklisted, but here is one from AFN (00506A10 B9BB******225A). i dont need to see any more than one to realize.
i was watching pvu before pvhe was developed. got all original emms going back to dec 2014 when hack was published. didnt need pvhe then and dont need it now.
i guess you will not learn until you are staring at a blank screen.
now please go post your thousands of keys since it doesnt matter, right?
edit: btw i am not saying sharing is bad..its good to share, but its not good practice to share in public.
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Biss whisperer
I am "giver" from DBVN,I was a moderator,so I know what the rules were in that site.And there were no posting keys, period.
It wasn't just powervu but any other encryption.
We even started the biss cuda project where you take your name from,from the Beeone and cuda days.
Again,you think this was about the freedom to post keys,which I rarely do.
But was more about the troubleshooting of this trasponder together,rather than the ability to post keys,you misunderstand this point.
You have no idea why they blacklisted that AFN key,could be simply the fact they retired that IRD,and this is almost a fact,proven by the BIG amount of EXPIRED UA's in the stream,they remove IRD for many reasons,they fail,they might have other problems,the customer might have cancelled the subscription,so many situations to think of.
All my respects to colibri,he knew how DVBN was handled,I also enforced the "no posting keys" rule.
This is different,this is a trasponder with a problem,and wanted to see people thinking on solving this,rather than no research at all.
Not sure you know,they NEED to send EMM to all irds,and the fact they are not sending EMM might have to do with other problems than to countermeassure this hack.
Your worries are somewhat justified,but is born from not analyzing the situation well.
Have you seen they send powervu keys by mail or other method??
Do IRD's have the option to enter keys manually?
Yes for BISS,but defeats the purpose for powervu of being an 'addressable" system.Do not be paranoid.
Somebody mentioned in this thread that the keys worked,I asked if he could post the keys for others to being able to get this trasponder working....simply because,while they are not sending EMM,there wont be a key change,and the moment they change you and others will be able to autoroll.
Feel free to protect what you have,do not protect to the point where problems cannot be analyzed and possibly fixed.
EMM will come back for that trasponder at some point.
I am "giver" from DBVN,I was a moderator,so I know what the rules were in that site.And there were no posting keys, period.
It wasn't just powervu but any other encryption.
We even started the biss cuda project where you take your name from,from the Beeone and cuda days.
Again,you think this was about the freedom to post keys,which I rarely do.
But was more about the troubleshooting of this trasponder together,rather than the ability to post keys,you misunderstand this point.
You have no idea why they blacklisted that AFN key,could be simply the fact they retired that IRD,and this is almost a fact,proven by the BIG amount of EXPIRED UA's in the stream,they remove IRD for many reasons,they fail,they might have other problems,the customer might have cancelled the subscription,so many situations to think of.
All my respects to colibri,he knew how DVBN was handled,I also enforced the "no posting keys" rule.
This is different,this is a trasponder with a problem,and wanted to see people thinking on solving this,rather than no research at all.
Not sure you know,they NEED to send EMM to all irds,and the fact they are not sending EMM might have to do with other problems than to countermeassure this hack.
Your worries are somewhat justified,but is born from not analyzing the situation well.
Have you seen they send powervu keys by mail or other method??
Do IRD's have the option to enter keys manually?
Yes for BISS,but defeats the purpose for powervu of being an 'addressable" system.Do not be paranoid.
Somebody mentioned in this thread that the keys worked,I asked if he could post the keys for others to being able to get this trasponder working....simply because,while they are not sending EMM,there wont be a key change,and the moment they change you and others will be able to autoroll.
Feel free to protect what you have,do not protect to the point where problems cannot be analyzed and possibly fixed.
EMM will come back for that trasponder at some point.
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