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jdavid22 said:
It is good to know the reason for all this, well you say and I include myself in having thought that our developer`s oscam were bought by the Chinese companies. Sorry for the translation if it is incorrect from google translator, but it serves to understand many things.
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Oscam works by submissions,meaning the ones that have the information can voluntarily supply a patch to fix something.
The ones with the information are free to do with it as they please,it belongs to them,they studied and discovered how it works.
The main point is Oscam is depending on contributions,so basically Oscam is an empty vessel and nobody could "buy" them.
The ones with the information can do as hey please,its their right,they own it.If they sell it is their choice.
You guys must be grateful you have people that voluntarily supplied information for so many years,and you should not flip sides when somebody is "delivering the fix" for a price of a new box.
There are many reasons for the current situation,I can only see few things and there might be several others,but if for some reason the information we need is not being made public,people would be very careful not to offend those that helped for years and see reasons to stop their contributions,realize that you guys are the real problem,not them...
 
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Here there must be many users who feel offended, but I do not believe as much as those people who profit from this "shared knowledge" anyway in C band there is much to see and entertain at the end of the account there are not so many channels that we reach see and if weekends, with all the benefits oscam has given us and keeps giving us what is left and that is enough I'm more than satisfied.
 
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At the end of the day the how and why of things matters less to me than being able to get something working on my TV. I'm not going to buy 50 kinds of boxes just to be able to watch something. I've purchased a Freesat V7. The history of updates/support is good and I paid less than $20 for the box. Last time I took my wife out to eat pizza it cost more than the box that was opening the AFN channels for me last week. I can't complain too much either way. If it happens again great, I'd love to watch some more NFL and college football games. If not I can still use it for FTA and other things. It's a fairly capable unit. I'd really love to be able to get a dish up to pull in the feeds from Asiasat 5. Finding a place to put it and the cash to buy it in the first place is an issue though. If AFN stays down it might become a priority.

The whole situation seems a little bit ridiculous to me. I've been involved in these kinds of things before, small groups of hackers hoarding knowledge and protecting it. In my experience it pays not to get too emotionally attached to anything. There are other people out there perfectly capable of coming up with the same things you are. They might try to profit from it. They might make it totally public in a reckless way that causes it to get patched too quickly. Either way you can't claim ownership over the idea. We're not even supposed to be opening these things at all anyway. Withholding this info so the people selling hardware can't profit from it seems kinda stupid to me. I can understand the frustration with them not sharing their own work with the public. It violates the spirit of open source. But isn't it worse having a situation where they're eventually getting this figured out and ONLY their boxes can open these channels? If people out there really do have private fixes for oscam wouldn't it be much better if they took them public as soon as the Chinese boxes start opening it, to undermine their exclusivity?

Either way I don't care at all how they feel about it. They are giving me nothing. All the talk is of zero use to me.
 
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Talim said:
At the end of the day the how and why of things matters less to me than being able to get something working on my TV. I'm not going to buy 50 kinds of boxes just to be able to watch something. I've purchased a Freesat V7. The history of updates/support is good and I paid less than $20 for the box. Last time I took my wife out to eat pizza it cost more than the box that was opening the AFN channels for me last week. I can't complain too much either way. If it happens again great, I'd love to watch some more NFL and college football games. If not I can still use it for FTA and other things. It's a fairly capable unit. I'd really love to be able to get a dish up to pull in the feeds from Asiasat 5. Finding a place to put it and the cash to buy it in the first place is an issue though. If AFN stays down it might become a priority.

The whole situation seems a little bit ridiculous to me. I've been involved in these kinds of things before, small groups of hackers hoarding knowledge and protecting it. In my experience it pays not to get too emotionally attached to anything. There are other people out there perfectly capable of coming up with the same things you are. They might try to profit from it. They might make it totally public in a reckless way that causes it to get patched too quickly. Either way you can't claim ownership over the idea. We're not even supposed to be opening these things at all anyway. Withholding this info so the people selling hardware can't profit from it seems kinda stupid to me. I can understand the frustration with them not sharing their own work with the public. It violates the spirit of open source. But isn't it worse having a situation where they're eventually getting this figured out and ONLY their boxes can open these channels? If people out there really do have private fixes for oscam wouldn't it be much better if they took them public as soon as the Chinese boxes start opening it, to undermine their exclusivity?

Either way I don't care at all how they feel about it. They are giving me nothing. All the talk is of zero use to me.
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So,you realize you are part of the problem,right?
You mus be a very skilled hacker to be able to read a card's content,and know what to do with it,takes time,lots of money and knowledge,and the fact you only want to watch TV and call them 'hoarders" is precisely the point you do not want to make if you want to keep getting 'updates" from them,calling them names won;t help the cause,only support helps.
Again,I gave my opinion,you can disagree.
But it is clear your own opinion is based on somebody that NEVER lifted a finger to help the community,but I did and understand how ungrateful the users can be.
 
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Kebien you sure think you are god, know it all. Well I hate to say it. But you are not.

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
 
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The Chinese are able to pay hackers for new PVu modes, and everyone is happy: the Chinese, who buy their boxes, and users of these boxes, and hackers who were able to earn extra money. :)
 
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hi bros ... my device sr 2000 hyper and 2.40 ver find the key power vu but have black screen.. any idea bros? I must w8 for new ver to shows the package ? any way or new softcam cant help me to solve the problme...tnx to all
 
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manic01 said:
New hash, no stb clears atm.
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New hash// yes i know bro... no stb clears atm// i dont understamd atm and stb can u explain me ? 4give me for spam and much Tallking bro ... Just tell me i must w8ting for new patch or i can fix it ? ...tnx
 
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The AFN keys AU fine with this new v2.42 firmware but hashmode 16 is obviously not supported as the screen remains black.
 
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rocSTEADY said:
why are people still updating the AFN thread with keys? do they know something we don`t?
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Three very big reasons ...
1) Boost Their post count
2) Free opportunity for "Thanks" button hits
3) spam-bots will always spam :D
 
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You guys are funny. I have no idea who or how they do it in reality. But lest speculate....

At least 1 Chip-set_guru is the official programer for the X Chinese company. This Chip-set_guru may had taken the training for the chip-set use in the device but it does not means he understand ALL Satellite protocols or a particular encryption like powervu. So at least another guy is in the Satellite_guru. Then there have to be another guy witch has knowledge in reverse engineer, that is the Reverse_E_guru. That is the guy many of us miss here... Then there has to be a guy who leak the new update, the Leak_guru. Well just try to imagine the time each one of this gurus require each to do his job. Not to even mentioning the $ negotiation that happens every time!!!

Well this process have to take some time. Thats why I pull out of my magic hat "few weeks". And I am guessing they are doing this to sell only OLD unwanted HD receivers that they may have on hand but not capable to do UHD. So did they sold all already that inventory? See this is just using my fast imaginative mind. But nothing of this is real. You may get it in the next hours, who knows. Good luck.
 
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Just compare that to Tanberg V3. Anubis_Ir did had rolling keys. But it did not matters as we could not figure out video/audio description scheme....

Be aware that posting UA numbers do not benefit anyone. But you run the chance that they figure that out and disable that unit.
 
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