How find BISS keys over CWFinder09 of help CW_list_Attack ...

[barney115]

BLACKCRUSADER ,
CW Brute file always give me complete but no key found.

i get that too all the time , its very limited to finding keys i tried maybbe a dozen feeds today and not 1 key i found at all so its just not you and no you , and certainly you do not need to stop doing what your doing there is nothing wrong with your set up or anything else ,
ive only ever found Nascar key and Golf World Magazine key with CW Brute programs other members have had more luck ..but i am not so lucky i guess luck it just not something that is possible for me to have : ))
Cheers !

 

[jan55]

I am not making spam. I often help members with crypt8 to get CW. I also post CW in threads.

The CW Brute force I can't get working well so was asking why.

If you think it's spam then I will stop posting CW from Crypt and stop posting CW in threads.

100% successful search CW BISS keys (with "CW_Brute_List_Finder" & "CW_Brute_list_2017" or some other CW_list) will be in the following cases:
1. if .ts files are correct recorded (with all the required PIDs)
2. if CW BISS keys exists in the "CW_Brute_list_2017" or in some other CW_list

... there is no other philosophy

 

[BLACKCRUSADER]

100% successful search CW BISS keys (with "CW_Brute_List_Finder" & "CW_Brute_list_2017" or some other CW_list) will be in the following cases:
1. if .ts files are correct recorded (with all the required PIDs)
2. if CW BISS keys exists in the "CW_Brute_list_2017" or in some other CW_list

... there is no other philosophy

Thanks. I am using EBS Pro to record and yes I record full audio and video pids. I can choose to record the Vpid but I choose full TS.

The stream recorded I am getting keys in V1 and V2 ( mostly ) but not in the CW Brute List and not in the CW Finder. I downloaded DVB Dream and recorded in TSwriter and got same result. So I am thinking it's just those two files are not for me.

I usually record at least 1.5gb ts stream. Sometimes if bitrate is fast I will record 4gb ts stream. Before as a member I was coming here to get keys then I decided I should get my own Biss tables and help others.

It seems one other member upset I am posting here. Maybe he jealous about my hardware, who knows? LOL

Today I record 1.5gb stream asiasat 5 4147 H 7500
In V2 I get Crypt 8 72 BO 30 5E 08 F4 3D BB
CW I get XX 22 XX CC 81 XX 90 XX .. The last two digits not showing. This never an issue even put any numbers the CW will work. It just means for V2 a larger TS recorded stream required.

Then in V1 Using all PIDs
Using file limit: 4096 MByte
File length: 1535 MByte
UsingFileLen: 1610458760 bytes
Reading file ...
Searching ...
Using payload size: 184
PID: BCCh B8h-Crypt8:72 B0 30 5E 08 F4 3D BB [E] Count:723338
Time for searching Crypt8 = 4 sec.

Search CW Start
RBT file: F:\Biss V1 file\B8hxFFh\B8hxFFh_table2\CSA_B8hxFFh_10000h.rbt
Calc all 10000h end values for this crypt ... (using file cache)
Search end values in RBT ...
Searching CW in RBT ...
Found 217926 possible chains (harddisk only search time = 64 sec.)
Analysing chains ... (will be 10 times slower if an other thread is keeping the GPU busy)
found CW: XX 22 XX CC 81 XX 90 XX
Search CW done (122 sec.)

 

[BLACKCRUSADER]

Then I try same file in CW Finder.
1.5gb 4147 H 7500 Asiasat5

First I load the latest CW attack list txt.
Then after keys OK I open the TS Stream.

CPU support MMX and SSE2 instructions...
Using SSE2 CSA library...
Using CWs list attack...
File open ...
Searching for two scrambled payload TS packets ...
First scrambled payload TS packet found...
Second scrambled payload TS packet found...
Third scrambled payload TS packet found...
Ready to search for Control Word (CW)...
Search Thread started...
All CW searched...
CW not found...
Search Thread stoped...

In CW Brute List just get complete with no key again. So I do not believe my TS record is bad just those two programs do not have enough data to get the CW.

 

[BLACKCRUSADER]

i get that too all the time , its very limited to finding keys i tried maybbe a dozen feeds today and not 1 key i found at all so its just not you and no you , and certainly you do not need to stop doing what your doing there is nothing wrong with your set up or anything else ,
ive only ever found Nascar key and Golf World Magazine key with CW Brute programs other members have had more luck ..but i am not so lucky i guess luck it just not something that is possible for me to have : ))
Cheers !

Thanks Barney. I read other people claim get all the keys all the time. So I am thinking what am I doing wrong. I will just not use those programs and stick with the CSA V1 and V2. Since I got my Ge Force GTX 1080 TI 3580 Core Nvidia from Asus my V1 search really fast now. Before on old GPU was 550 - 800 seconds now with the 1080 TI gpu 90 - 125 seconds lol.

 

[BLACKCRUSADER]

PS

I merged two V1 RBT tables with no duplication and now have a 318GB RBT.
When merging system said there were no duplicate files.

If you would like to have this RBT send me a 500gb USB drive with your current RBT tables for V1.

I will then send back with my 318GB RBT tables.

I live in Taiwan.

 

[CANADA]

hi BLACKCRUSADER ! I surprised with Your post, may be we need to stop this topic ?
PLEASE STOP THE SPAM , because if you have a good hardware its dos'nt mean that CW finder CW list brute force
not working...
its working for me and for more and more users our forum, I say please stop SPAM, if you want help the form you can to do with other method -- write your personal cw list or
share your chain files for v1 or v2 table - its was be wisely

 

[barney115]

There is no spamming whatsoever
BLACKCRUSADER gave an honest detailed opinion
it should not be disrespected
the most important thing of all is what shishmish has said

2. if CW BISS keys exists in the "CW_Brute_list_2017" or in some other CW_list

obvious that this may work better for some members
but for others CSA Rainbow tool offers a much higher level of success which is rather obvious .

and of course

1. if .ts files are correct recorded (with all the required PIDs)

this obviously is not the case in this situation since CSA Raimbow table And V1 Chains found key where Brute force tool once again Failed , i am not saying this is 100% the case in every recorded .ts file it will seriously depend on
2. if CW BISS keys exists in the "CW_Brute_list_2017"

and which CW_Brute_list is used as there is quite a few posted in this thread topic already so perhaps other list may have more luck its tuff to say for certain ,
but @ CANADA we do not permit any type of flaming towards any member regardless
so keep it friendly : )

 

[BLACKCRUSADER]

Thanks to member who sent me a PM I was able to download a new CW Brute List file.

I tried it on the stream I had recorded before.

Took 1 second to find the key.

So it seems the CW list I downloaded before from this thread was not up to date. I will try it on more streams as many events on Asiasat5 today.

 

[jan55]

When .ts files are correct recorded (eg 100-150MB, regardless of fake Crypt8), CW_Brute_List Finder will find the CW BISS key if it exists in CW_lists ... I've had such cases a lot!

 

[BLACKCRUSADER]

When .ts files are correct recorded (eg 100-150MB, regardless of fake Crypt8), CW_Brute_List Finder will find the CW BISS key if it exists in CW_lists ... I've had such cases a lot!

Yes. It must be a key used before. Today for A League Australia a new key is used so found it in V2 but not in CW Brute.

Thank you to all the people helping me to understand. CW Brute is great and fast if key is in list. V1 and V2 are required when you cannot get keys otherwise. Even if I get a key in V2 I will also scan in V1 to save the ECW file.

 

[BLACKCRUSADER]

When .ts files are correct recorded (eg 100-150MB, regardless of fake Crypt8), CW_Brute_List Finder will find the CW BISS key if it exists in CW_lists ... I've had such cases a lot!

OK I would like to try something. I see in the txt file that 12 keys are listed not 16.

I have all the keys for the China Basketball.

Lets say I make a new file but only put the basketball CW keys.

Do I put in the first 12 digits only or the full key set of 16?

Current
000000000000
000000000001

My CBA keys

0066258BC78D54A8
1C6D6BF43E726313

change to this?

0066258BC78
1C6D6BF43E7

 

[-=UMAIR=-]

OK I would like to try something. I see in the txt file that 12 keys are listed not 16.

I have all the keys for the China Basketball.

Lets say I make a new file but only put the basketball keys in.

Do I put in the first 12 keys only or the full key set of 16 keys?

Here Is How


CBA-1
CW:-00 66 25 8B C7 8D 54 A8

You Will Have To Insert The CW Like This In Attack List

006625C78D54

I Mean U Have To Ignore 7,8,15,16 Digit Of The CW These Are Checksums

 

[BLACKCRUSADER]

Here Is How


CBA-1
CW:-00 66 25 8B C7 8D 54 A8

You Will Have To Insert The CW Like This In Attack List

006625C78D54

I Mean U Have To Ignore 7,8,15,16 Digit Of The CW These Are Checksums

OK thanks. I Assume if the check sums are left in then it will not work. I will try it let you know.

00 66 25 (8B) C7 8D 54 (A8) (xx) remove the 78 and 15 16

1C 6D 6B (F4) 3E 72 63 (13) (xx) to remove

 

[BLACKCRUSADER]

Here Is How

Hi UMAIR

That worked great. I made a new file renamed CBA CW BRUTE

First key I put 000000000000

Then I put in the 20 keys that China Basketball are using. They rotate the keys to different SID 01 02 0304 05 06 07 etc

So now when I use the CW Brute I only need to scan a small file 1gb enough and the bitrate is always fast so TS recording is fast.

Now I can get all the keys in 1 second per CBA channel.

SWEET :thum:

 

[jan55]

Format a CW BISS keys:

00 66 25 ([COLOR="Red"]8B[/COLOR]) C7 8D 54 ([COLOR="red"]A8[/COLOR]) 
1C 6D 6B ([COLOR="red"]F4[/COLOR]) 3E 72 63 ([COLOR="red"]13[/COLOR])

Format a CW BISS keys (or lines) in CW_list (without 4th & 8th digits):

006625C78D54
1C6D6B3E7263

 

[jan55]

New update "CW_Brute_list_2017" - 18.11.2017
- added a new template lines (more than 12.000)
- sorted and without duplicates



Good luck !

 

[croxpert]

why does it take me so long?

Search CW Start
RBT file: F:\Version 1 table\08hxFFh\08hxFFh table5\08hxFFh_table5\08hxFFh_table5\CSA_08hxFFh_10000h.rbt
Calc all 10000h end values for this crypt ... (using file cache)
Search end values in RBT ...
Searching CW in RBT ...
Found 150374 possible chains (harddisk only search time = 215 sec.)
Analysing chains ... (will be 10 times slower if an other thread is keeping the GPU busy)
CW not found
It seems you need a bigger RBT
Search CW done (237 sec.)

GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
SSD 1,8 TB
AMD 3,30
8GB RAM
64-bit
WIN 10

thanks

 

[Martin.Wigston]

why does it take me so long?

Search CW done (237 sec.)

thanks

I would say that is the normal amount of time

 

[evrenbiss]

hello

is there any passwords on this list, does adding all the possibilities give definite result?