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Going back to the topic of our discussion. Maybe SU should put together a beefed-up computer rig (if is legal and feasible to do)?


There are members on here who have beefed up computer rigs with top end RTX 4090 cards in them.
As has been pointed out earlier in this topic, an RTX 4090 card can process the full biss range in just under 10 hours.

Years ago it was often said CUDA biss was GPU dependent. The newer generations of CPU's, RAM and motherboards are proven to have a role to play in getting faster speeds.
 
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There are members on here who have beefed up computer rigs with top end RTX 4090 cards in them.
As has been pointed out earlier in this topic, an RTX 4090 card can process the full biss range in just under 10 hours.

It might be possible to reduce that time by optimising the rig so that throughput from the RTX 4090 is maximised.
For example, a motherboard that can run 16 PCIe lanes at PCIe 4.0 speed such as an Intel 12th, 13th or 14th generation board will not bottleneck the GPU compared to a board that only supports PCIe 3.0 speed lanes. Also, by using a board that supports DDR5 RAM it gives the rig access to higher memory speeds compared to DDR4 or DDR3 RAM. This might increase the speed of a biss full range scan.

Years ago it was often said CUDA biss was GPU dependent. The newer generations of CPU's, RAM and motherboards are proven to have a role to play in getting faster speeds.
Do you know what is the power consumption of RTX 4090?
 

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Do you know what is the power consumption of RTX 4090?


The NVIDIA website has quite a few specifications listed for it, I have pasted them below.

Idle Power 19W
Video Playback Power 25W
Average Gaming Power 315W
Total Graphics Power 450W

I assume for cudabiss it would be running at total graphics power and drawing 450W ?
 

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Wao "Idle Power 19W", Normal Chinese soldering iron are usually around 25W!

I guess is a Windows requirement, as it been said that Windows driver require for a GPU to be physical in use. I do not know now, but originally you where force to connect FAKE CRT adapters or the GPU will not be recognized.
In Linux there is no such requirement.
 

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Will cudabiss work in cloud virtual machine?

Some services offer 8 x RTX 4090 GPU for ~$8/hr.

PS. I'v just ran a test on my old PC (now Mac is my daily ride) with GTX 1080. I'm getting ~500 MKPS. Power consumption: ~130Watt. With two instances running: ~300 MKPS per instance and power consumption 155Watts.
Something is broken then, my test with a 1080 gave a minimum 850-950
even my old gtx 980 gives 560-580+
 

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Something is broken then, my test with a 1080 gave a minimum 850-950
even my old gtx 980 gives 560-580+
Wow, that's almost double speed. Which version of cudabiss do you use (mine works only with v11264 and v12064)? Does it show ~75 hours to do full range search?
 

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Go back and read earlier in the thread cudabiss51264.exe is the original you should be using or you can try the newer which is double the speed but crashes on older cards
 

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Go back and read earlier in the thread cudabiss51264.exe is the original you should be using or you can try the newer which is double the speed but crashes on older cards
I've read the whole thread. Looks like You use GTX 1080Ti which has 1000 more CUDA cores - so my score is somewhat OK.
PS. I'm getting 530 MKPS when I connect to windows via SSH and run cudabiss that way.
 

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I've read the whole thread. Looks like You use GTX 1080Ti which has 1000 more CUDA cores - so my score is somewhat OK.
PS. I'm getting 530 MKPS when I connect to windows via SSH and run cudabiss that way.


CudaBiss is impacted in speed if remote access control software such as Team Viewer is used and an open connection is mainitained.
I am not sure if SSH would have the same impact as Team Viewer but there is a definite reduction in speed with Team Viewer.

It should be an easy thing to test, simply run a test range directly on the PC without remote access control and compare the speed with the test range when SSH is used.
 

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Im not using a 1080ti (that was only one of the cards i tested) My pc has is using a GTX 980 4GB which averages 560+ Mkps
Your score is near to half what it should be for a 1080 gpu. What driver are you using? and the specs of your machine? since you mentioned only 2 versions of cuda biss working then that will be a problem. At your end. The 51264.exe (old) has been tested extensively as performing the fastest. Thats where your speed loss is coming from.. not using the correct version

On newer card though you can use thee later cudabiss1024 (doesnt work on my 980 card unfortunatly) but is great on 3060ti and higher
 
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Im not using a 1080ti (that was only one of the cards i tested) My pc has is using a GTX 980 4GB which averages 560+ Mkps
Your score is near to half what it should be for a 1080 gpu. What driver are you using? and the specs of your machine? since you mentioned only 2 versions of cuda biss working then that will be a problem. At your end. The 51264.exe (old) has been tested extensively as performing the fastest. Thats where your speed loss is coming from.. not using the correct version

On newer card though you can use thee later cudabiss1024 (doesnt work on my 980 card unfortunatly) but is great on 3060ti and higher
My system is 7 years old:

Motherboard: X99s SLI Plus
GPU Bus: PCI Express x16 Gen 3
Nvidia Driver version: 546.33
CPU: i7-5820k 3.30 GHz
Fresh install of Windows 10 Pro

Cudabiss 51264 quits after few seconds.
 

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My system is 7 years old:

Motherboard: X99s SLI Plus
GPU Bus: PCI Express x16 Gen 3
Nvidia Driver version: 546.33
CPU: i7-5820k 3.30 GHz
Fresh install of Windows 10 Pro

Cudabiss 51264 quits after few seconds.


I have no issues running v51264 on an X99 board setup with Windows 10 Pro.
The cards I have tested it with are GTX 980 Ti, RTX 2080 Ti and RTX 3080 Ti. All run OK.

The closure of CudaBiss after a few seconds has happened to me with later versions of CudaBiss but not v51264.
When it happened with later versions it was with an RTX 2080 Ti card.

If I had to guess for the reason why it closes I would say it is the graphics card.
The later versions of CudaBiss all run OK with RTX 3080 Ti cards and RTX 4090 cards.
 

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Well thats interesting..
I use an asus X99A 16 GB ram and even the same intel 5820k CPU as you John

I'm on driver 545.84 though I don't think that's relevent

I would be checking the temps of the gpu via GPUZ or cpuid hardware monitor, it might need the thermal paste changed or just a decent clean. Not all Gpus are the same what make and model is it? some need vbios update too... running gpuz will help showing whats happening such as thermal throtling or vram crashing

Are you running anything that might be overclocking the card by any chance?
 

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I have done a lot of testing , overclocking vram or memory on the gpu will cause to quit out if pushed too far. Which seems possible since you said you can run the lower number version of cudabiss which is less vram intensive.
 

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I have done a lot of testing , overclocking vram or memory on the gpu will cause to quit out if pushed too far. Which seems possible since you said you can run the lower number version of cudabiss which is less vram intensive.
Thanks @sdrfgs and @moonbase for your help.

My GPU card is GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1080 G1 Gaming GV-N1080G1 GAMING-8GD Video Card.
I run everything at factory settings.

I was able to get 800 MKPS running two instances. Interestingly I get the fastest speed by connecting to windows computer via ssh and running Cudabiss from command line.
 
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Well you wont get the best speed unless you can get the 51264.exe to run.

Cudabiss only runs from the CMD line either way

if its crashing out when you run the higher version something ain't right...

I would be looking at opening up the card and giving it a clean.

But really open up GPUZ first and checkout what temps you have , i stil lthink your gpu has ram issues. Sometimes you can fix this up by running msi afterburner and undervolting

That gpu also has an application software on the website called "Xtreme engine"

which you can use to check in case the vbios was updated, which they sometimes do if the card has used samsung ram or micron ram in some revisions.
 
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9517.85 million keys per second !

Or if you prefer billions, 9.51785 billion keys per second.
The speed was obtained from CudaBiss with a single RTX 4090 GPU.
It runs the full biss range in 8.21 hours.
With some slight overclocking and other adjustments it should be possible to get to 10 billion keys per second ?
 
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I found the linux version of cwfinder on my HD
also from the read me
Forum: http://mower.orgfree.com/forum
Webpage: http://mower.orgfree.com

which you can still view in waybackmachine


For RTX cards

Older Linux build
Newer Linux build
 

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For RTX cards

Older Linux build
Newer Linux build
Thanks for this very interesting, did you build these?
 
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