Cryptoworks nano 84 question

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Hi,

Can someone explain what exactly meaning of nano 84 is?
It looks like second providerid/key, but when to use?

Thanks in advance!
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Thank you, so for decrypt the 8060 I need the data from nano 84 provider and not the 83 provider?

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I cannot receive Digiturk.
ORF and AustriaSat are trying to confuse me at the moment as they do not send the nano 8060 right now.
Looks like nano 8060 is broadcasted plain now and I see 2 times the CW nano and signature nano.
My emu is taking only first nano DB.
On ORF this is no problem. 83 and 84 provider are same.
AustriaSat has two different providers (10 and 0C) and is black.
Now I wonder how this is meant to be: First CW found in ecm is for nano 83, second CW found in ecm should be handled by nano 84 provider?

Thanks for clearing things up.
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RayhTec said:
I cannot receive Digiturk.
ORF and AustriaSat are trying to confuse me at the moment as they do not send the nano 8060 right now.
Looks like nano 8060 is broadcasted plain now and I see 2 times the CW nano and signature nano.
My emu is taking only first nano DB.
On ORF this is no problem. 83 and 84 provider are same.
AustriaSat has two different providers (10 and 0C) and is black.
Now I wonder how this is meant to be: First CW found in ecm is for nano 83, second CW found in ecm should be handled by nano 84 provider?

Thanks for clearing things up.
Regards,
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nano 84 is not accepted, also nano 8060 for old bioses
austriasat work on emu via classic key.. momentary is used key 00 and 14b from 16 .. this is differend, because few days back used key 01 and only 8b from 16
 
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The bell is not ringing for me.

AustriaSat nano 83 01 10, nano 84 02 0D 01.

Nano 83 --> provider 10, key 0
Nano 84 --> provider 0C, key 1

Is the nano 84 assumption correct? When do I have to use this information?

ORF 83 and 84 both provider 04 key 0.

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RayhTec said:
The bell is not ringing for me.

AustriaSat nano 83 01 10, nano 84 02 0D 01.

Nano 83 --> provider 10, key 0
Nano 84 --> provider 0C, key 1

Is the nano 84 assumption correct? When do I have to use this information?

ORF 83 and 84 both provider 04 key 0.

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why you need this info ? for emu you must have valid key 00 for provider 10 .. this is all about this
 
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It is for hobby purposes only.
I want to know how Cryptoworks encryption works.
I see different kinds of ecm's and I my emulator cannot handle so I try to rewrite. Especially for the 8060 nano.
EMM handling for cw is also on my wish list:)
I know my emulator is working when I put in correct key, but I see things are changing.

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RayhTec said:
It is for hobby purposes only.
I want to know how Cryptoworks encryption works.
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good idea, only cryptoworks will be dead per few months .. try find software blekitny and cwfaq in this soft, or old cwfaq from turkish old friend named Slaycracker ..

I see different kinds of ecm's and I my emulator cannot handle so I try to rewrite. Especially for the 8060 nano.
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and you known decrypt this nano ? exist free non crypted bin file for BDC card for upc and in this is setup light decrypt this nano

EMM handling for cw is also on my wish list:)
I know my emulator is working when I put in correct key, but I see things are changing.
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yes, sometimes changed (1 change per two years) . Autoupdate is possible and easy...
 
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Hi,

Most encryptions will end but that's life.

The FAQ's and programs I have but they do not give me the information about the nano 84 or 8060.
The programs I cannot use as I have no CW card:(

I tried RSA decrypt with nano 8060 but no results.
Either it is not RSA encrypted or RSA keys I have (found on the net and worked in the past for nano 85) are not valid anymore.

Till now I only did test with ORF and AustriaSat.

I wil try to grab some emm's from stream today.

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RayhTec said:
Hi,

Most encryptions will end but that's life.

The FAQ's and programs I have but they do not give me the information about the nano 84 or 8060.
The programs I cannot use as I have no CW card:(
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if you no have any card this is problem ... all is only teoretical

I tried RSA decrypt with nano 8060 but no results.
Either it is not RSA encrypted or RSA keys I have (found on the net and worked in the past for nano 85) are not valid anymore.
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old keys not work in new cards.. all hight bioses having differend keys and some provider too differends rsa

Till now I only did test with ORF and AustriaSat.
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orf is difficult provider for your tests
 
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Hi,

I was mistaken by my previous remarks about not broadcasting 8060nano for ORF and AustriaSat.
There was some mixing up with my emu in processing and showing.
I fixed this.

So decrypting the nano 8060 is not yet possible for me as I do not have the correct RSA and emm-G keys.

I set up filters for grabbing Cryptoworks EMM's.
I read somewhere that table 86 is for updating BIOS 5 and higher.
I am studying the EMM's send on table 84 now. Hoping to see something familiar for BIOS 3.

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RayhTec said:
Hi,

I was mistaken by my previous remarks about not broadcasting 8060nano for ORF and AustriaSat.
There was some mixing up with my emu in processing and showing.
I fixed this.

So decrypting the nano 8060 is not yet possible for me as I do not have the correct RSA and emm-G keys.

I set up filters for grabbing Cryptoworks EMM's.
I read somewhere that table 86 is for updating BIOS 5 and higher.
I am studying the EMM's send on table 84 now. Hoping to see something familiar for BIOS 3.

Regards,
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yes.. good way .. Learn, learn, learn speak Lenin..
Učiť sja, učiť sja, učiť sia govoril Vladimir Iľjič Lenin ... :thum:
 
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I grabbed following shared emm:

0x84, 0x70, 0x45, 0xA9, 0xFF, 0x01, 0x00, 0x04, 0xDB, 0x28, 0x00, 0x6B, 0x80, 0x04, 0x01, 0x00,
0x04, 0xDB, 0x86, 0x2A, 0xE5, 0x8B, 0xB1, 0x3D, 0x5C, 0x2F, 0xEE, 0x75, 0xB0, 0x2A, 0x8C, 0xDA,
0xBB, 0x2D, 0x3E, 0x15, 0x68, 0x22, 0xFD, 0x7C, 0xCE, 0x97, 0xFE, 0x31, 0x05, 0xDF, 0xDB, 0x86,
0x7E, 0xD2, 0xFE, 0xFD, 0xD2, 0x65, 0x36, 0x78, 0xB2, 0xFC, 0x64, 0xED, 0xF9, 0xF0, 0xDF, 0x08,
0x24, 0x45, 0xBC, 0x8A, 0x5C, 0x19, 0x9A, 0x6B,

In here I can discover nano 80, 86 and DF.
EMM is addressed by nano 80, I think.
How do I figure out for which provider this emm is?
In other words: How do I know if I have ORF or AustriaSat EMM?
I would like to grab ORF or AustriaSat EMM for BIOS 3 card.

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I found some more emm's:

0x86, 0x70, 0x26, 0xA9, 0xFF, 0x83, 0x01, 0x04, 0x85, 0x1F, 0xC4, 0x71, 0x27, 0x7D, 0x5A, 0x17,
0x07, 0x68, 0x8A, 0xFA, 0xD9, 0xB7, 0x67, 0x6D, 0xF1, 0xF3, 0x76, 0xFC, 0xB0, 0x19, 0x41, 0x8B,
0x7E, 0xAE, 0x8C, 0x25, 0xD1, 0x59, 0xE2, 0xED, 0x73,

and

0x88, 0x70, 0x2F, 0xA9, 0xFF, 0x28, 0x00, 0x2A, 0x83, 0x01, 0x06, 0x89, 0x01, 0x80, 0x8C, 0x03,
0x88, 0x00, 0x01, 0x8D, 0x04, 0x2E, 0x71, 0x2E, 0x8F, 0x8F, 0x01, 0x01, 0x91, 0x01, 0x10, 0xD5,
0x07, 0x4F, 0x52, 0x46, 0x20, 0x41, 0x6C, 0x6C, 0xDF, 0x08, 0x4A, 0xB2, 0x2C, 0xC4, 0x2C, 0x37,
0xEA, 0xF1,

The signature from the table 88 emm can be calculated correctly.
For the other ones I do not see any relation.

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Hi 007.4,

Nice to meet you here:)

As klivo said I need some keys from newer cards and it seems difficult to get them:)

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007.4 said:
Yes, getting keys is always the problem. :(
I'm sorry I cannot help.
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thanks mister 007.4

have you bdc card ?

the solution to decrypt this nano 8060 its in soft blau dragon card

any one have this card pm me

benas

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