Constant.cw with Two BISS channels same SID

j.puig

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Hi,
I use Oscam emu and a constant.cw file for BISS keys.
Fox Sports feed at 7 East, and 12 Kanal HD on Amos 4 West have the same SID (0001) and I have to delete (or comment ; ) one to watch the other one.

constant.cw:

2600:000000:0001:0800:1FFF::KEYS KEYS ; FOX SPORTS 7E
2600:000000:0001:1010:1FFF::KEYS KEYS ; 12 Kanal HD 4W

Is there any way of having both enabled at the same time ?
 

j.puig

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??
If I don't delete (or put ; in the beggining on) the first one, I can't watch the second one.
 
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campag5242

As dahaka says, oscam's constant.cw reader should find the corresponding CW entries for both channels in the example you gave, as the pmt pid isn't common to both. Dunno why it's not working for you.

If you have a case of two channels with the same pmt pid, then there's one last option, which is to split that final :: & insert the vpid value for both. If the vpids are the same, then you are out of luck, and it happens a lot with feeds I find.

Is there another solution? If there is, it eludes me. SoftCam.Key is no better.

Hence I spent today hacking the oscam-emu source to suit my needs for feeds/BISS. I'll test some more before posting the code.
 

j.puig

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OK. Thanks.
It seems OsCam (r11390 E2-mips) just reads SID, and as both channels have the same one (0001), it tries always the first one.
 
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m35istan

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OK. Thanks.
It seems OsCam (r11390 E2-mips) just reads SID, and as both channels have the same one (0001), it tries always the first one.

Oscam emu read: sid: pmtpid :ecmpid :videopid:
2600:000000:045b:1000:1FFF:0100:

If one is different you can use same time.
Please add this reader:

Code:
[reader]
label                         = emu2
protocol                      = constcw
device                        = /etc/tuxbox/config/constant.cw
group                         = 1

and put your constant.cw file /etc/tuxbox/config/ and restart your oscam.

If you have biss k€y inside SoftCam.k€y file plaese delete all or same sid,pmtpid,ecmpid,videopid k€ys
 
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j.puig

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It doesn't work.

Code:
2600:000000:0001:0800:1FFF:0100:KEYSKEYS ; FOX SPORTS 7E
2600:000000:0001:1010:1FFF:1011:KEYSKEYS ; 12 Kanal HD 4W

I already had this config;
Code:
[reader]
label                         = BISS
protocol                      = constcw
device                        = /etc/tuxbox/config/oscam/constant.cw
group                         = 1

I have no Softcam.key file
 
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campag5242

@m35istan even when fully specifying all the pids in constant.cw, especially with feeds, there are inescapable clashes. Maybe I'm doing it wrong...

Anyway, as a taster, here's an extract of what the keyfile for my modified oscam-emu looks like after a bit of feedhunting on 7W earlier today:

Code:
F F471D2EB 00 0000000000000000  10.0°E 10887V 20170923@1251 Zambia OB6 Encoder 1
F 8C0768BC 00 0000000000000000  10.0°E 11059V 20170923@1224 Rai ITA 475A
F A26143E5 00 0000000000000000  10.0°E 11043V 20170923@1241 Rai ITA77A
F 980634F3 00 0000000000000000  10.0°E 11055V 20170923@1354 RAI ITA 94 A
F FC6D9C33 00 0000000000000000  10.0°E 11062V 20170923@1225 Rai ITA 475B
F F1C53A0C 00 0000000000000000  10.0°E 11067V 20170923@1227 Rai ITA76B
F 84919CDE 00 0000000000000000  10.0°E 11107V 20170923@1356 RAI ITA88A
F 95D7FA42 00 0000000000000000  10.0°E 11163H 20170923@1154 GCUK Enc 1 (Scottish Football)
F AF95A273 00 0000000000000000  10.0°E 11500H 20170923@1247 GCUK Enc 5
F 96E924AE 00 0000000000000000  10.0°E 11500V 20170923@1407 MOTO GP ARAGON
F EABD1656 00 0000000000000000  10.0°E 12739V 20170923@1301 E-399 Via1
All details are automatically generated on channel zap - except of course the key & channel-name (label)
 

m35istan

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@m35istan even when fully specifying all the pids in constant.cw, especially with feeds, there are inescapable clashes. Maybe I'm doing it wrong...

Anyway, as a taster, here's an extract of what the keyfile for my modified oscam-emu looks like after a bit of feedhunting on 7W earlier today:

All details are automatically generated on channel zap - except of course the key & channel-name (label)

This format SoftCam.Key format. Not constant.cw format.
F FC6D9C33 00 0000000000000000

Zero key is i think solve.
 

m35istan

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Yes.
In order to watch the second one, I have to comment or delete the first key.
I have not 7 east and 4 west.
But i use a lot off same sid without problem :

Code:
2600:000000:0001:0800:1FFF::
2600:000000:0001:0020:1FFF:0200:
2600:000000:0001:0028:1FFF::

Another example :

Code:
2600:000000:00D1:082A:1FFF::61 04 11 76 10 84 71 05 61 04 11 76 10 84 71 05 
2600:000000:00D2:0834:1FFF::61 04 11 76 10 84 71 05 61 04 11 76 10 84 71 05 
2600:000000:00D3:083E:1FFF::61 04 11 76 10 84 71 05 61 04 11 76 10 84 71 05 
2600:000000:00c9:07da:1FFF::61 04 11 76 10 84 71 05 61 04 11 76 10 84 71 05 
2600:000000:00ca:07e4:1FFF::61 04 11 76 10 84 71 05 61 04 11 76 10 84 71 05
 
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campag5242

Yes, I've chosen to go with SoftCam.Key for my modified oscam-emu. The key format better suited my needs. constant.cw should be history :D Source code tomorrow.
 

m35istan

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Could you put your channel and ecm info like :

sid.png
ecm.png


xsport.png
 
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j.puig

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Well, thanks for all replies.
I have finally discovered what is happening by reading OsCam Live Log window.

I can't zap between both SID 0001 services.
If I'm watching the first SID 0001 channel and I want to watch the second SID 0001 channel, I have to zap to another different channel before zapping to the second SID 0001 one.

SID 1 --> SID 1516 --> SID 1 > works OK.
SID 1 --> SID 1 > No picture on second one.

When you zap from SID 1 to another SID 1 , oscam says:
(dvbapi) Demuxer 0 continue decoding of SRVID 0001.
So I think it thinks that you have not zapped, so it doesn't look for another key.....

Interesting....
 
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m35istan

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Hi,
Finaly do you solve your problem ?
I have not same sid program now. But may be tomorrow i can put same sid and zap channels example with oscam live log.
Thanks
 

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the full format

CAID:pROVIDER:SID:pMT:ECMPID:VPID: XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX ; Comment

some feeds will have exactly the same parameters, but you can use the PMT and VPID to help differentiate between feeds too.
 
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j.puig

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Hi,
Finaly do you solve your problem ?

Yes, by doing an intermediate zap.

some feeds will have exactly the same parameters, but you can use the PMT and VPID to help differentiate between feeds too.

Yes, it works.

There is one thing it doesn't work: share BISS constant.cw via CCcam.

I have a box which has all constant.cw key file , and I try to watch on another box, using Oscam too, cccam protocol.
Here it happens what I told on first post of this threat.
It seems it doesn't read VPID when looking for KEY on another box.
 

kebien

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This the extended constant.cw line
#CAID:provider ID:Service ID:pMT ID:ECM PID:Video PID:key (16 Bytes seperated by spaces)
 
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