Auto BISS

[Arnoldsat]

Dear friends,

From reading around here, I am now fascinated by the reports that there are Autoroll BISS receivers like GTMedia and Viark.
But I also read that is takes thousands of CUDA cores to find a BISS key with brute force, and often quite an amount of time.
A (relatively cheap) satellite receiver doesn't have that kind of computing power. So how do they do it? Does anybody have an idea?

Thanks Arnoldsat.

 

[smithysmudger]

The box just pulls the key from a biss server

 

[foxx®]

Dear friends,

From reading around here, I am now fascinated by the reports that there are Autoroll BISS receivers like GTMedia and Viark.
But I also read that is takes thousands of CUDA cores to find a BISS key with brute force, and often quite an amount of time.
A (relatively cheap) satellite receiver doesn't have that kind of computing power. So how do they do it? Does anybody have an idea?

Thanks Arnoldsat.

There is no AU or AUTOROLL in Bis coding system!!!! That is impossible and illogically, because Biss as coding system is totaly different from Nagra, NDS, Via....
In real AU or AUTOROLL there are NO NEED for net conection!
So there are NO "magical" so called "Biss AU" or "Biss Autoroll", and its a wrong interpretations!

"Thanks" to that "fascination", every day more and more feeds go to the more advanced and 100% safer Bis 2 scrambling system, and so that's why there are those of us who are not "fascinated" by those "receivers" that do "autoroll" by downloading CW from the server!!!

 

[samir mokhtari]

There is no AU or AUTOROLL in Bis coding system!!!! That is impossible and illogically, because Biss as coding system is totaly different from Nagra, NDS, Via....
In real AU or AUTOROLL there are NO NEED for net conection!
So there are NO "magical" so called "Biss AU" or "Biss Autoroll", and its a wrong interpretations!

"Thanks" to that "fascination", every day more and more feeds go to the more advanced and 100% safer Bis 2 scrambling system, and so that's why there are those of us who are not "fascinated" by those "receivers" that do "autoroll" by downloading CW from the server!!!

You are right, but what is meant is not biss encryption The intention is that Chinese receivers find you a key automatically without you having to search for it. The code and adding it manually is definitely behind. This feature is a Chinese team and computers, and the server must be connected. This is it. Intention

 

[jenseneverest]

Sad as it is.... the cat was let out the bag many years ago. So as far as Biss goes, the writing is already on the wall.
More and more satellite TV is being replaced by IPTV (i mean the legal kind here)
Hopefully that will mean most providers don't bother with Biss2, in the knowledge that all satellite feeds will eventually be replaced with internet feeds.
Satellite launches are not cheap..... so in reality the writing is on the wall for our dishes as well.
Enjoy it while it lasts.

 

[foxx®]

You are right, but what is meant is not biss encryption The intention is that Chinese receivers find you a key automatically without you having to search for it. The code and adding it manually is definitely behind. This feature is a Chinese team and computers, and the server must be connected. This is it. Intention

Anyway, It cannot be any form or any kind of AU or AUTOROLL, but only something completley different, which
does not match the title of this thread

 

[Arnoldsat]

There is no AU or AUTOROLL in Bis coding system!!!! That is impossible and illogically, because Biss as coding system is totaly different from Nagra, NDS, Via....
In real AU or AUTOROLL there are NO NEED for net conection!
So there are NO "magical" so called "Biss AU" or "Biss Autoroll", and its a wrong interpretations!

"Thanks" to that "fascination", every day more and more feeds go to the more advanced and 100% safer Bis 2 scrambling system, and so that's why there are those of us who are not "fascinated" by those "receivers" that do "autoroll" by downloading CW from the server!!!

Wow, such a fierce reaction with many exclamation marks.

Biss as coding system is totaly different from Nagra, NDS, Via..

Did I say so? I use BISS every day at work.

so that's why there are those of us who are not "fascinated" by those "receivers" that do "autoroll" by downloading CW from the server!!!

Ah, thanks, now I know to ask you first before being fascinated by something, to see if it's allowed or not.

I'm just following what I read
Have a nice evening.
Arnoldsat.

 

[Arnoldsat]

The box just pulls the key from a biss server

Thank you! A real answer here. This thread may be closed now.

Have a nice evening.
Arnoldsat.

 

[Arnoldsat]

No box. China used brute force


When a new feed takes a longer time 2munit for exmaple somtimes, it is then saved in a database The server take just few second

There are feeds. The crypt is complicated and it is impossible to find the crypt by recording the ts file That's why everything is clear, they use brute force With powerful and advanced computers

Thank you! A real answer here. This thread may be closed now.
Have a nice evening.
Arnoldsat.

 

[foxx®]

Wow, such a fierce reaction with many exclamation marks.
Did I say so? I use BISS every day at work.
Ah, thanks, now I know to ask you first before being fascinated by something, to see if it's allowed or not.

I'm just following what I read
Have a nice evening.
Arnoldsat.

My friend, You asked a question, then you stated your fascination and I just gave you precise answers to all your questions,
accurate and precise answers and not my wishes or dreams. If you don't want to read it - ignore or don't take them as valid,
your right and choice. Your fascination is your personal and individual feeling and all the answers you got from me are facts
that you can check them, that's all!

oh yes of course, good luck with your everyday Biss work, maybe Autoroll will work some day, who knows?!