catalin_radio
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Even a ban one..
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Even a ban one..
cayoenrique
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I would agree with ignore / ban user button if powervu tread where in fact active on main topic. But at the moment it is dormant. Waiting for that smart champion to post a patch.
In my opinion the question been discuss is a valid one and in topic, as there are users that seems to be adopting that solution.
I do not have the correct numbers so forgive me for inexactitude. But there most be 50 - 100 different model/vendor of those "cheap Chinese devices".
So what happen NOW?:
It is also true that not many of those do in fact "can watch AFN and SRG" etc. I bet you that at this time 1-5 of all models and vendors. In my imaginary numbers 1/50 of them. So at this very time you are one of the Lucky so you are happy and bragging about it. But what do you expect to spent $2500 ($50 x 50 (different models)) to ensure that you can watch those?
What will happen, next week, moth or half year?:
Yes you bet no support any more. At most they open a "Server up/Down" thread. Then is the turn for 1-5 of the others diferent vendors that do open you wanted Special Channel Selection.
This is not a new thing, it has been for decades. I guess if you have the money just keep buying them. But if you are smart wait another 1 to 6 month and let me know how you doing?
In my opinion the question been discuss is a valid one and in topic, as there are users that seems to be adopting that solution.
I do not have the correct numbers so forgive me for inexactitude. But there most be 50 - 100 different model/vendor of those "cheap Chinese devices".
So what happen NOW?:
It is also true that not many of those do in fact "can watch AFN and SRG" etc. I bet you that at this time 1-5 of all models and vendors. In my imaginary numbers 1/50 of them. So at this very time you are one of the Lucky so you are happy and bragging about it. But what do you expect to spent $2500 ($50 x 50 (different models)) to ensure that you can watch those?
What will happen, next week, moth or half year?:
Yes you bet no support any more. At most they open a "Server up/Down" thread. Then is the turn for 1-5 of the others diferent vendors that do open you wanted Special Channel Selection.
This is not a new thing, it has been for decades. I guess if you have the money just keep buying them. But if you are smart wait another 1 to 6 month and let me know how you doing?
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eaglevision993
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Never said they have the same capabilities. I only say, if you want to watch PowerVu the cheap receivers do a way better job than the expensive ones.
It should be the other way around....
cayoenrique
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eaglevision993 you are a good guy but still compare apples and oranges.
In any case do not forget their are e2 boxes for a little more of $100. An even the Android ones.
Now High end Linux boxes can cost big bucks. But those have a different market. Their vendors are not offering you a warranted service on powervu, etc. Instead you pay for the best CPU, Memory, Quality etc.. It is the user the one that goes around find the best images for his need and make it play. Vendors have nothing to do with that. User of this boxes know they get for free what ever is available. As only hacker willing to offer a patch free of charge can make the different. It is like fishing we sit and wait. But the expected live/use of this boxes are long, like 10 year as only a change in transmission standard kills them. Ignoring a lot of important details, in the past kill changer where related to SD to HD then to UHD.
The ones you may be talking in the other hand, have the lowest of resources but enough to to this week work. I guess your vendor offer you PVU in this week. But next week when they no longer pay the hacker, then leave you with a box in your hand that have no other use but FTA. You as a user can not find another image as only your vendor have that power.
Simpler analogy, you can not compare you Iphone with a PC Desktop. Both have CPU, GPU, Memory etc. In both you can watch HBO or Football and do your internet stuff. But no matters how you want to compare them one is a phone the other a desktop.
If you are a newbee and you want desperate this week pvu, then go for those boxes. In the other hand you want to have a box that last a decade, fine your self a good Linux Base Receiver witch vendor has offered an SDK so that others can create their own images. See NOT even all Linux Boxes have a real value. Their are many with private drivers that make them as un-useful as those cheap dummy ones.
Good luck my friend.
In any case do not forget their are e2 boxes for a little more of $100. An even the Android ones.
Now High end Linux boxes can cost big bucks. But those have a different market. Their vendors are not offering you a warranted service on powervu, etc. Instead you pay for the best CPU, Memory, Quality etc.. It is the user the one that goes around find the best images for his need and make it play. Vendors have nothing to do with that. User of this boxes know they get for free what ever is available. As only hacker willing to offer a patch free of charge can make the different. It is like fishing we sit and wait. But the expected live/use of this boxes are long, like 10 year as only a change in transmission standard kills them. Ignoring a lot of important details, in the past kill changer where related to SD to HD then to UHD.
The ones you may be talking in the other hand, have the lowest of resources but enough to to this week work. I guess your vendor offer you PVU in this week. But next week when they no longer pay the hacker, then leave you with a box in your hand that have no other use but FTA. You as a user can not find another image as only your vendor have that power.
Simpler analogy, you can not compare you Iphone with a PC Desktop. Both have CPU, GPU, Memory etc. In both you can watch HBO or Football and do your internet stuff. But no matters how you want to compare them one is a phone the other a desktop.
If you are a newbee and you want desperate this week pvu, then go for those boxes. In the other hand you want to have a box that last a decade, fine your self a good Linux Base Receiver witch vendor has offered an SDK so that others can create their own images. See NOT even all Linux Boxes have a real value. Their are many with private drivers that make them as un-useful as those cheap dummy ones.
Good luck my friend.
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Open SX1, price ~$16-18.
What do we get for this money?
1. Full HD;
2. T2-MI;
3. USB Wi-Fi/3G;
4. YouTube;
5. AFN + Sony Pictures Networks (India) + SRG;
6. Internet Radio (VTune);
7. IPTV (VOD and Apollo);
8. Free sharing for 6 months (Funcam);
9. RSS news.
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masrawysat
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If it opens rosscrypt encryption , it will be nice one
Good joke.
The Russian system of coding "Rosscrypt" (RosCrypt) hack virtually impossible. Developed it in the 70-ies in the USSR in one of the secret "research center" of the State Security Committee (USSR KGB).
The size of the key block is 64-bits, so an attempt to select codes by simple search (bruteforce) is a "dead works".
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cayoenrique
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That is a Brazilian sat. What about the problem? As I see no one reporting them?
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I already gave up these Brazilian sats (65 75 84W). I've already dismantled my antenna. The "Teams" no longer support these sats. There are still many channels encoded in powervu on other satellites to enjoy. I have 40 43 47 55 58w. Do not expect anything for their return.
cayoenrique
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Uhhh!
TEAM:
I do not speak for the forum, in fact it seems I am not even popular here. So I post very little.
But I think I still see some people confuse with commercial offers not related to SU and what SU community offers.
That I know SU have no "TEAM". At most we could mention a good thread:
ooOO_SORGOS_OOoo's "Sat TV channels we can watch via "our" Emus..."
http://www.sat-universe.com/showthread.php?t=19174
But that is only a resume of what is Openly Available with the emus we have.
So to clarify ALL Brazilian sats as all other sat worldwide that use any of the formats hacked (pvu/biss/tanberg etc) can be discuss here. And I am pretty sure some one with the knowledge can help you guys.
PVU unsupported MODEs:
But you need never to forget that pvu is hacked partially. So if you sat uses a mode that is currently locked(Not hacked) well as all other people here you will have to sit and wait for a free solution to appear.
Now I do not come often but that I recalled when(65 75 84W) where mention all seems to end that you wanted the solution in Fox International Channels (4014H30000 55.5W) which is one of the few transponders with bad/locked mode in America.
PVU Suported Modes:
Now lets assume you have a transponder you have no key. But that it is supported with the emu available. Then you need to post a Full TS log in "ECM KEY COLLECTION IN REGION AMERICA". Or even better if you like just open you own "ECM KEY COLLECTION BRAZIL". Then hopefully some one with free time will give you a hand in search that key. Now need to understand that there is no team waiting for your request. It is voluntary help from SU users like you.
Hope I was of help.
TEAM:
I do not speak for the forum, in fact it seems I am not even popular here. So I post very little.
But I think I still see some people confuse with commercial offers not related to SU and what SU community offers.
That I know SU have no "TEAM". At most we could mention a good thread:
ooOO_SORGOS_OOoo's "Sat TV channels we can watch via "our" Emus..."
http://www.sat-universe.com/showthread.php?t=19174
But that is only a resume of what is Openly Available with the emus we have.
So to clarify ALL Brazilian sats as all other sat worldwide that use any of the formats hacked (pvu/biss/tanberg etc) can be discuss here. And I am pretty sure some one with the knowledge can help you guys.
PVU unsupported MODEs:
But you need never to forget that pvu is hacked partially. So if you sat uses a mode that is currently locked(Not hacked) well as all other people here you will have to sit and wait for a free solution to appear.
Now I do not come often but that I recalled when(65 75 84W) where mention all seems to end that you wanted the solution in Fox International Channels (4014H30000 55.5W) which is one of the few transponders with bad/locked mode in America.
PVU Suported Modes:
Now lets assume you have a transponder you have no key. But that it is supported with the emu available. Then you need to post a Full TS log in "ECM KEY COLLECTION IN REGION AMERICA". Or even better if you like just open you own "ECM KEY COLLECTION BRAZIL". Then hopefully some one with free time will give you a hand in search that key. Now need to understand that there is no team waiting for your request. It is voluntary help from SU users like you.
Hope I was of help.
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cayoenrique
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I know next question will be.
What modes are open and what is locked?
I do not have that quick answer. Can some one post a quick list. I personally will appreciate such a list. Thanks ahead.
What modes are open and what is locked?
I do not have that quick answer. Can some one post a quick list. I personally will appreciate such a list. Thanks ahead.
theGeneral
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Hello guys
interesting read about some "not hacked" PowerVu and some packages (Brazil) that can't be opened. I didn't know that, and it's hard to believe that PowerVu Brazil can't be opened. Sure, maybe oscam and some commercial boxes don't open it because of lack of support but it's hard to believe it really can't be done. I really think it is possible because all PowerVu satellites I receive work!
So can someone be so kind and send me a link for a powervu recording from 65W 75W 84W? I need 1 minute of full transponder, which can be a lot of data, so please use mega or google drive for upload. Or if you know how, record PIDS 0, 1, 17, 90 and ECM, PMT, Video and Audio for one channel from a transponder.
In return, I will try to open the channels and let you know the REAL result, instead of speculating here, which is what I see now.
interesting read about some "not hacked" PowerVu and some packages (Brazil) that can't be opened. I didn't know that, and it's hard to believe that PowerVu Brazil can't be opened. Sure, maybe oscam and some commercial boxes don't open it because of lack of support but it's hard to believe it really can't be done. I really think it is possible because all PowerVu satellites I receive work!
So can someone be so kind and send me a link for a powervu recording from 65W 75W 84W? I need 1 minute of full transponder, which can be a lot of data, so please use mega or google drive for upload. Or if you know how, record PIDS 0, 1, 17, 90 and ECM, PMT, Video and Audio for one channel from a transponder.
In return, I will try to open the channels and let you know the REAL result, instead of speculating here, which is what I see now.
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ooOO_SORGOS_OOoo
Who want to info brasil sats ? Only private info
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I want that info, that's why I asked about the recordings. And that's something that really doesn't need to be private since posting a TS recording is nothing that would be secret since anyone in the coverage area can receive those signals. Just by looking at the EMM/ECM and perhaps CDT streams, it will be clear what's up with Brasil. But we need that recording.
I want. If it's free. ;-)
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ooOO_SORGOS_OOoo
who can get signal west sats? pls only them want to info
For everyone's information :
There are 4 CW hash modes (0x01 to 0x04 )
There are 40 hash modes (0x0F to 0x27 )apart from the normal ones.(0x0A)
Many modes use tables to calculate results.
Asking what could the cheap boxes open or can't is a moot point because any of this can be used at any time.
So,if you think about it,maybe letting the providers win battles might just keep freeware in the game longer.
In any case,instead of praising the chinese boxes,you should ask if is not really them the ones killing the hacks by producing cheap boxes that put the providers in attack mode.
The ones killing this hobby are the ones that commercialize the hacks,always were.
Freeware was never meant to make money with,and stayed in the game the longer.
Makes no sense people complaining that chinese boxes are ahead of freeware,when they are the reason the providers need to make countermeasures.
See the irony? complain about something that is free,and praise something that produce the end of the hack.
Silly people.
There are 4 CW hash modes (0x01 to 0x04 )
There are 40 hash modes (0x0F to 0x27 )apart from the normal ones.(0x0A)
Many modes use tables to calculate results.
Asking what could the cheap boxes open or can't is a moot point because any of this can be used at any time.
So,if you think about it,maybe letting the providers win battles might just keep freeware in the game longer.
In any case,instead of praising the chinese boxes,you should ask if is not really them the ones killing the hacks by producing cheap boxes that put the providers in attack mode.
The ones killing this hobby are the ones that commercialize the hacks,always were.
Freeware was never meant to make money with,and stayed in the game the longer.
Makes no sense people complaining that chinese boxes are ahead of freeware,when they are the reason the providers need to make countermeasures.
See the irony? complain about something that is free,and praise something that produce the end of the hack.
Silly people.
theGeneral
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Freeware is just a tool to make use of otherwise valuable information. Noone releases valuable information for the purpose of freeware/opensource benefit and happyness of public. Someone always does it for their own benefit.
Don't blame the Chinese, they just do what's natural to them. It's just too tempting not to pay some $$$ to a good hacker who can reverse engineer the hash modes, just like it might be tempting for that hacker not to accept the $$$, even though in the beginning the hacker maybe thought he would do it for fun and to make his ego feel good... now he can also make his wallet feel good