DM600 or DM7020

[Coffen]

Hi,

I'm thinking of getting myself a Dreambox. :yahoo:
As the DM8000 is not out yet I would like to know some opinions on which one I should buy while waiting for the DM8000 to surface.

Should I go for the cheaper DM600 or spend more and get the DM7020?
I want to use the box for CS.

Thanks in advance :thanx:

 

[Rocknroll]

Well if you are just looking for something to fill in the time until dm8000 comes I'd suggest going with cheapest one, dm500. It will give you all functionality that others can give you, unless you really want hd. But you can record to your pc hd from dm500 so even that is not an issue.

 

[Coffen]

Hi m8,

I really do need the HD, so the 500 is out.
Does the DM500 images run on DM600?

 

[Rocknroll]

No, I don't think you can use dm500 images in dm600.

 

[Coffen]

oki,

What do I gain by getting a DM7020 instead of a DM600?
Secondly, what do I loose by getting a DM600? emus? images?

:thanx:

 

[Rocknroll]

Well you can compare official technical data between those two:
dm600:

- 250 MHz PowerPC Processor (350 Mips)
- Linux Operating System
- 1 x Smartcard-Reader
- MPEG2 Hardware decoding
- Common available NIMs (DVB-S, DVB-C, DVB-T)
- Tuner modules, Plug&Play
- V.24/RS232 Interface
- 10/100Mbit compatible Ethernet Interface
- 2 LED status
- 32 MByte Flash, 96 MByte Ram total
- integrated IDE UDMA66 Interface
- Support for internal HDD 2,5" in any capacity
- unlimited channel lists for TV/Radio
- channel-change time < 1 second
- full automatic service scan
- supports directly bouquet-lists
- supports EPG (electronic program guide)
- supports own videotext
- supports multiple LNB-Switching control (DiSEqC)
- fully adaptable OSD in many languages and skin-support
- S/PDIF Interface for digital bit stream out (AC-3)
- 1 x Scart-interfaces
- S-Video connector
- analoge modem

DreamBox DM600 technical data

DBS-Tuner:
Frequency Range 950 …. 2150 MHz
Signal Level - 65 dBm …. - 25 dBm
Signal-to-Noise Level 12 dB max.
DBS-Tuner Input Connector F-Type female
Input Impedance 75 Ohm
AFC +/- 3 MHz
Demodulation Shaped QPSK
FEC Viterbi and Reed-Solomon
Viterbirate 1/2, 2/3, 3/4, 5/6, 7/8, automatic assimilation
Roll-off Factor 35 %
Demultiplexing according ISO 13818-1

Video decoder:
Video Compression MPEG-2 and MPEG-1 compatible
Video Standard PAL G/ 25 Hz
Video Formats 4:3 / 16:9
Footage 16:9, automatic assimilation for 16:9 TV-Device (over Scart)
Letterbox precolating for 4:3 TV-Device

Audio decoder:
Audiokompression MPEG-1 & MPEG-2 Layer I and II
Audio Mode Dual (main/sub), Stereo
Frequency: 32 kHz, 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz, 16 kHz, 22.05 kHz, 24 kHz

Output analog:
Output Level L/R 0,5 Vss on 600 Ohm
THD > 60 dB (1 kHz)
Crosstalk < -65 dB

Output digital:
Output Level 0,5 Vss on 75 Ohm
Sampled Data Filtering 32 kHz, 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz
S/PDIF-Output optical (AC3)

Video parameter:
Input Level FBAS 1 Vss +/- 0.3 dB on 75 Ohm
Teletext filter in conformity with ETS 300 472 Standard

TV-Scart:
Output: FBAS,RGB,S-Video

Serielle Interface RS 232:
Typ RS232 bidirectional
Bitrate 115,2 kBit/s max.
Plug Connector SUB-D-9
Function: Update of Firmware

Ethernet:
10/100 MBit compatible interface
Function: Update of Firmware, Connect to PC

UDMA66 IDE Interface:
Intern for connect 2,5" HDD

LNB Power and polarisation:
LNB Current 500mA max. ; short-circuit-proof
LNB Voltage vertical < 14V without load, > 11,5V at 400mA
LNB Voltage horizontal < 20V without load, > 17,3V at 400mA
LNB shut-off at Standby-Mode

Count of active satellite position:
DiSEqC 1.0/1.2 SAT POSITION / SAT OPTION
DiSEqC - Rotor Control

Power consumption:
< 15W / 12V

Input voltage:
DC12V,alternating acurrent +/- 15%

Extern power supply:
Input: 110-240V AC / 50-60Hz / 0,6A
Output: 12V = / 2,5A

Physical specification:
Ambient Temperature +15°C...+35°C
Humidity < 80%
Size (W x D x H): 195 mm x 130 mm x 40 mm
Weight: 0,6 kg

dm7020:

- 250 MHz PowerPC Processor(350 Mips)
- Linux open source (most parts under the terms of GPL)
- Supports Linux Standard API (Direct-FB, Linux-FB, LIRC)
- 1 x DVB Common-Interface Slot
- 2 x Smartcard-Reader
- Integrated Compact Flash Interface Slot
- MPEG2 Hardware decoding (fully DVB compliant)
- Common NIM DVB-S
- 10/100 MBit compatible Ethernet Interface
- modem
- USB Port
- 12V switch cinch
- V.24/RS232 Interface
- Big-size LC-Display
- 32 MByte Flash
- 96 MByte RAM
- integrated IDE UDMA66 Interface
- Support for internal HDD in any capacity
- unlimited channel lists for TV/Radio
- channel-change time < 1 second
- full automatic service scan
- supports directly bouquet-lists
- supports EPG (electronic program guide)'
- supports own videotext
- supports multiple LNB-Switching control (supports DiSEqC)
- fully adaptable OSD in many languages and skin-support
- S/PDIF Interface for digital bit stream out (AC-3)
- 2 x Scart-interfaces
- RF modulator
- Audio/Video cinch out
- MINI-DIN connector for extern IR (send)

DreamBox DM7020 technical data

DBS-Tuner:
Frequency Range 950 . 2150 MHz
Signal Level - 65 dBm . - 25 dBm
Signal-to-Noise Level 12 dB max.
DBS-Tuner Input Connector F-Type female
Input Impedance 75 Ohm
AFC +/- 3 MHz
Demodulation Shaped QPSK
FEC Viterbi and Reed-Solomon
Viterbirate 1/2, 2/3, 3/4, 5/6, 7/8, automatic assimilation
Roll-off Factor 35 %
Demultiplexing according ISO 13818-1

Common-Interface:
Common-Interface Power Consumption max. 0,3A/5V

Video decoder:
Video Compression MPEG-2 and MPEG-1 compatible
Video Standard PAL G/ 25 Hz
Video Formats 4:3 / 16:9
Footage 16:9, automatic assimilation for 16:9 TV-Device (over Scart)
Letterbox precolating for 4:3 TV-Device

Audio decoder:
Audiokompression MPEG-1 &mp; MPEG-2 Layer I and II
Audio Mode Dual (main/sub), Stereo
Frequency: 32 kHz, 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz, 16 kHz, 22.05 kHz, 24 kHz

Output analog:
Output Level L/R 0,5 Vss on 600 Ohm
THD > 60 dB (1 kHz)
Crosstalk < -65 dB

Output digital:
Output Level 0,5 Vss on 75 Ohm
Sampled Data Filtering 32 kHz, 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz
S/PDIF-Output optical (AC3)

Video parameter:
Input Level FBAS 1 Vss +/- 0.3 dB on 75 Ohm
Teletext filter in conformity with ETS 300 472 Standard>

TV-Scart:
Output: FBAS,RGB,S-Video over OSD selectable

VCR-Scart:
FBAS

Serielle Interface RS 232:
Typ RS232 bidirectional
Bitrate 115,2 kBit/s max.
Plug Connector SUB-D-9
Function: Update of Firmware

Ethernet:
10/100 MBit compatible interface
Function Update of Firmware, Connect to PC

USB:
USB 1.2 connector

Mini DIN:
I2C for stearing of external devices
IR funktion
  
Pins:
  1    5V
  2    SDA (I2C-Kanal 2)
  3    SCL
  4    3,3V
  7    GND
  8    IR-Output
  9    GND

UDMA66 IDE Interface:
Intern for connect HDD
Compact Flash - Reader

LNB power and polarisation:
LNB Current 500mA max. ; short-circuit-proof
LNB Voltage vertical < 14V without load, > 11,5V at 400mA
LNB Voltage horizontal < 20V without load, > 17,3V at 400mA
LNB shut-off at Standby-Mode

Count of active satellite position:
DiSEqC 1.0/1.2 SAT POSITION / SAT OPTION
DiSEqC - Rotor Control

Power consumption:
< 20W (in operation, horizontal polarization / 400mA LNB current)
< 11W (in operation, without LNB)
< 4W (Deep-Standby-Mode)

Input voltage:
230V / 50 Hz alternating acurrent +/- 15%

Physical specification:
Ambient Temperature +15°C...+35°C
Humidity < 80%
Size (W x D x H): 374 mm x 230 mm x 75 mm
Weight: 1,8 kg  without HDD

You do loose image support by choosing dm600, but I am sure that should change soon. It has only been released recently, so people didn't have time to produce images for it. As for emus, I think already available emus should work fine on dm600.

 

[Coffen]

thanks m8

I know the difference in hardware, sorry for not posting my question correctly.

My concern was more software related, but as you kindly pointed out the only drawback for the moment is the lack of images.

If current emus work on DM600 then I should be fine. :thum:

 

[Zingh]

I think that is better 7020

 

[mnn135]

I have only used the 7020 and have found it to be good, frustrating at times but I would recommend it

 

[BraiNKilleR]

Since my Xcruiser just died i had the same question and i'll think i will go with dm7020 if that helps due to much greater support at this time than dm600.

 

[ymag]

i've had a DM-7020 for over a year with no problems at all.

many of my friends who have the DM-500 (which is infact the same as the 600 but w/out hd) complain of problems in CS which i think is mainly due to the limited capacity of ram that 500 has vs. 7020.

also, with the 7020 you can add either a cf card or usb stick & create a swap file to increase the ram even more.