All true, What we are trying to protect is our self not any kind of software, my self and others were done very wrong and had things posted in open forum that were just not true and we were banned so we had no chance to defend our self, satellite testers is now gone, as it should be.That's what I said,underground.
No work is being done that anybody cannot do with public tools.
The reason to be underground is because the sense of "protecting what's out there",which is all public.
This "protection" is only a dream.
The only thing that keep everything alive is freeware,and that's what they are using,no work its been done,just searching for keys.
Ok, back to topic.