Eutelsat 5 west now incline by 0.5°

william-1

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Eutelsat 5 West A satellite should have been retired over 6 months ago had Eutelsat 5 West B not been damaged now with only one solar panel working,

Not good for fixed dish reception the end is near for Stellat 5 launched 7th July 2002 with an expected life in geostationary orbit for 15 to16 years :eek:

Eutelsat 5 West A now (incl. 0.5°)
https://www.lyngsat.com/atlantic.html
 

barney115

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Any news yet about a working sat to replace Eutelsat 5 West A ?
 

maumixio

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RAI provider will stay at 5W (Transalpine beam) but Persidera and Mediaset are on Eutelsat 9°E too so maybe they are ready to leave old Eut5W/A. Fransat and Rai will remain on Eut 5/B with 50% of power as we know and Eut 5/A deorbited. Only my personal opinion.


p.s. Rai, Mediaset, Rete A1, Persidera Network are service feed for terrestrial signal so they must have at least one satellite active and the choice excluding RAI is Eutelsat 9°E ;)
Any news yet about a working sat to replace Eutelsat 5 West A ?


@Barney answer is: satellite is already on geostazionary orbit Eute 5W/B unfortunatelly with 50% of power
 

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Any news yet about a working sat to replace Eutelsat 5 West A ?

As correctly reported in the previous post, Eutelsat 5 WEST B will remain the only one in that position (so with data services and only ku band coverture for Europe and Africa).

If you was referring to C-band situation it's of course endind soon :(

Acutally this satellite is used only by two statimes tv Uganda bouquet 4111R, 4152R and by occasional OCCA channels on 3727R position (actives only when there are CAF matches).

What's happening to them?

Now Startimes Tv Uguanda is C-band broadcasting both on 5W than 8W (3725R,3761R) and can be received with a conax receiver+card and a C-band dualfeed (5W-8W). When satellite leaves I guess bouquets will move to 8W (possibly in low C-band positions and circular L polarity enough specular to its present bouquets in CR one) with a possible rearrangement of all services so to avoid double channels :D

OCCA bouquet too for his CAF events could follow the same way or move to other possible satellites as 10E, 3E ,5E (solution less probable for Startimes TV Uguanda)

At the end, Eutelsat 5 West A was a good satellite for European C-band coverture (>150cm dishes about)
If bouquets move to 8W it will be a problem, because 5W has a more omogenic trans-continental coverture, while the other has a stronger African beam and if earth station transmission power remains the same at least a 3 meter dish will be requested for a tolerable reception in Europe (at least 7.5db about seem to be StarsatTV bouquet threashold).
 

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As correctly reported in the previous post, Eutelsat 5 WEST B will remain the only one in that position (so with data services and only ku band coverture for Europe and Africa).

If you was referring to C-band situation it's of course endind soon :(

Acutally this satellite is used only by two statimes tv Uganda bouquet 4111R, 4152R and by occasional OCCA channels on 3727R position (actives only when there are CAF matches).

What's happening to them?

Now Startimes Tv Uguanda is C-band broadcasting both on 5W than 8W (3725R,3761R) and can be received with a conax receiver+card and a C-band dualfeed (5W-8W). When satellite leaves I guess bouquets will move to 8W (possibly in low C-band positions and circular L polarity enough specular to its present bouquets in CR one) with a possible rearrangement of all services so to avoid double channels :D

OCCA bouquet too for his CAF events could follow the same way or move to other possible satellites as 10E, 3E ,5E (solution less probable for Startimes TV Uguanda)

At the end, Eutelsat 5 West A was a good satellite for European C-band coverture (>150cm dishes about)
If bouquets move to 8W it will be a problem, because 5W has a more omogenic trans-continental coverture, while the other has a stronger African beam and if earth station transmission power remains the same at least a 3 meter dish will be requested for a tolerable reception in Europe (at least 7.5db about seem to be StarsatTV bouquet threashold).

Most of C band has moved to 8 west including Startimes the rest of C band that was on 5 west has moved to 4.8 east https://www.flysat.com/astra4a-ses5.php

Reception reports from C band users is not favourable as a loss of signal now requires larger dishes.
 

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Most of C band has moved to 8 west including Startimes (...)

Sorry but Startimes TV packages never moved from 5W.

Startimes TV general and national packages have been activated since 2018 on several satellites 5E, 10, 5w, 8w.

While of course 5W is an ending life satellite and all other services had left times ago, as you said correctly.

My point was different.
We don't know why more than a year ago Startimes tv Uganda decided to choose for two of his bouquet a dismissing satellite not opting directly for 8W (as it did with two other bouquets)

Possibly a dismissing satellite has lower rent costs and it's too possible when satellite situation gets worse such packages will simply left permanently with no migration to 8w.

From our point of you, they are near totally encrypted and of few interest for us. There is only one channel we care (bundesliga) fta that every Saturday is active and broadcasts a bundesliga match.
Same channel is repeated already on 8w, so we don't know what will be 5W startimes bouquets next future
We'll see..
 

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The shutdowns mainly affect former Fransat programs. Their shutdown was also announced

In fact, the Tp KA2 12.564 V was switched off on Eutelsat 5W A

12.585 H is on Eutelsat 5 West B and it is still on air with changed program allocation ;)
 

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maumixio said:
RAI provider will stay at 5W (Transalpine beam) but Persidera and Mediaset are on Eutelsat 9°E too so maybe they are ready to leave old Eut5W/A. Fransat and Rai will remain on Eut 5/B with 50% of power as we know and Eut 5/A deorbited. Only my personal opinion.

but on 5w it's free the multistream but on 9E it's also free ??
thank you

maumixio dit que "RAI provider will stay at 5W (Transalpine beam) but Persidera and Mediaset are on Eutelsat 9°E too so maybe they are ready to leave old Eut5W/A. Fransat and Rai will remain on Eut 5/B with 50% of power as we know and Eut 5/A deorbited. Only my personal opinion"
mais sur 5w c'est gratuit le multistream mais sur 9E c'est aussi free??
merci
 

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maumixio said:
RAI provider will stay at 5W (Transalpine beam) but Persidera and Mediaset are on Eutelsat 9°E too so maybe they are ready to leave old Eut5W/A. Fransat and Rai will remain on Eut 5/B with 50% of power as we know and Eut 5/A deorbited. Only my personal opinion.

but on 5w it's free the multistream but on 9E it's also free ??
thank you

maumixio dit que "RAI provider will stay at 5W (Transalpine beam) but Persidera and Mediaset are on Eutelsat 9°E too so maybe they are ready to leave old Eut5W/A. Fransat and Rai will remain on Eut 5/B with 50% of power as we know and Eut 5/A deorbited. Only my personal opinion"
mais sur 5w c'est gratuit le multistream mais sur 9E c'est aussi free??
merci


Mediaset1 and Mediaset5 are encrypted Nagra3/Videoguard
D-Free few channels (Premium) are encrypted Nagra3/Videoguard
Mediaset2, Mediaset3, Mediaset4, TIMB1,2,3 La3, Rete A 1, Rete A 2, Cairo Due, Rai are free


Mediaset1 Mediaset3 and D-Free are not on 5°West actually.
 

Gregory90

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...

but that doesn't mean that E5WA will soon be retired.:rolleyes:

In the night from June 30th to July 1st the FEC will be changed for the Fransat transponders in question, so that reception with smaller dishes is possible even longer.

regards
 
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