caid provider index for idman tv or trt 3 (42e)

Please, does anybody know how to manualy add keys for Idman tv or TRT 3 (42e-turksat) in metabox? I have a key but I need CAID, Provider, Type and Index. I tried many combination but nothing. On my biss list those programms doesn't exist. I already entered some biss keys etc for b92 and they work, but I need those programms. Thanx