Possible K1 Unique CAID 0911 16E???

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Little bit Confused about New card on Total TV Satelite 16 East

Old Cards with CAID 091F Work
New Card have CAID 0911 Nowhere work

ATR from the 2 Cards
Total TV Old 091F Card ATR: 3F FF 14 25 03 10 80 33 B0 10 69 FF 4A 50 70 00 00 5A 43 01 00 00
Total TV New 0911 Card ATR: 3F FD 15 25 02 50 80 0F 41 B0 0F 69 FF 4A 50 F0 80 21 5A 43 03

Seems that the CAID 0911 is new Generation
would be Interesting to know if there is something Possible before
Trying to spent Hours and Hours

3DES ???
Brute ???

any Info Welcome what can be Tested or tried
 

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@deltaT thx i asumed it is 3DES
so there must be other way to get it work on Alternative Receiver
Because the Orginal one is Pain in the Ass for Every Customer
 

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@micro76
Thanks for Info i asumed it work somehow because it seems similar to 098C
Just the Big Question is how to get the needed Infos when they are NP
 

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OK Oscam gets now an Update and evrything is Fine in my Logs, Entitelments are now there.

0911 Card is Similar to 098C Sky DE

so there must be a way to handle that 3DES, Any Ideas are Welcome, i Know the most will Say no Way but there must be one Meet in the Middle Attack, Weak Cipher, Possible K1 in Box Firmware ???
 

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Where is the right Place to search for the needed Info inside Box or the Card ???

and maybe someone know in Nagra Hex where to search for it
any info welcome
this must be possible somehow
 
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