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2 server methods that i know, for Skysat i have never unpacked, because i don't know the application.

DVBfinder

Code:
_http://iptvbiss.cronus.name/autobiss?[quesystring]
receiver sends data every 20 seconds.

example

Code:
ve=h264&au=00000000&c8=e9b067bf56ccfbd4&s8=45a27bb2890e256f&i8=0dca0f1b00011c20&id=474f58961fb2d6a3&time=5c1854dc&code=1f266bd4
Hippopatc

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_http://172.104.99.93/demo/ci_demo/index.php/hipopatch/[select biss, powervu or tandberg]/[pid channel]
send data when opening channel

Thank you very much for this information! From that first link, it looks like the box is authenticated with the server first, so i guess it could block an abused connection. The second link seem to be more generic. I cant seem to get either to produce anything though, anyone else have any luck?

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But how do the people on this forum generate the keys so fast? I have asked a few people and they all say they have these boxes. I have tried cudabiss, CWFinder and CW Lookup, the latter two only work if the key is present in the list files. Cudabiss takes a very long time to compute, like days. So just how are the elite of the forum finding the keys so fast?
I get keys in 5 minutes using rainbow tables,and I am far from being fast at all.
I also run cudabiss and helped a bit the development,so I am privy of non published versions,and with friends and shared resources is possible to get a valid key in decent time.

Some people in this forum with the right rig can get keys in under a minute.
The people that have this chinese boxes are not really into finding keys at all,so you are asking the wrong people.

Expend some money in an Nvidia card,an SSD,and you have all you need to search for keys,unless you think this hobby needs no expending.
This is the only way to stay alive when all servers go down.
I assure you this community have spent tons of money in gear for decades just as a hobby,and they know nothing is as worth it.

Time for you to start doing it,you'll get nothing done unless you invest time and money wisely.
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Time for you to start doing it,you'll get nothing done unless you invest time and money wisely.
I think I have spent way too much time and money already, my wife will not be happy with me haha. As you can see form my profile I have been on here since 2008, but just kept quite. I started spending back in the days when Sky One was FTA on 19.2e and D/D2-MAC was the encryption getting broken with 'wafer' cards (my very first buy was a Rediffusion, dont think they are around anymore)! Just been out of the game since 2014 due to health issues so just trying to get back up to speed and help with what i can in the process
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I get keys in 5 minutes using rainbow tables,and I am far from being fast at all.
I also run cudabiss and helped a bit the development,so I am privy of non published versions,and with friends and shared resources is possible to get a valid key in decent time.

Some people in this forum with the right rig can get keys in under a minute. The people that have this chinese boxes are not really into finding keys at all,so you are asking the wrong people.

Expend some money in an Nvidia card,an SSD,and you have all you need to search for keys,unless you think this hobby needs no expending.
This is the only way to stay alive when all servers go down.
I assure you this community have spent tons of money in gear for decades just as a hobby,and they know nothing is as worth it.

Time for you to start doing it,you'll get nothing done unless you invest time and money wisely.
Yup my rig is fast 4tb SSD for V1 tables and 1080TI Nvidea and good PC.
For V2 I use a 6tb HDD and get the key pretty quick if its there but often need V1 this year.

I also have the hellobox which has wifi to server but unless someone puts in the new crypt and gets the CW to their online server then the box will not open channels. I have seen this by not putting in the crypt to their server after finding crypt and CW from my biss key server. Sometimes I even put the crypt in and got the CW hellobox still slow to update.

The Hellobox is good if existing CW but for new ones which a lot of sports are using this year the hellobox will not update.

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But how do the people on this forum generate the keys so fast? I have asked a few people and they all say they have these boxes. I have tried cudabiss, CWFinder and CW Lookup, the latter two only work if the key is present in the list files. Cudabiss takes a very long time to compute, like days. So just how are the elite of the forum finding the keys so fast?
I make my own CW file lists for certain sports. Asian Champions league AFC Cup, China Basketball, Australia Basketball, etc.

So by creating your own CW list with a few years of CW for some sports will help you a lot. Some sports like A league and NFL Major League Soccer do not use previous CW so you won't find in CW lists. For that you need to have your own Biss Server.

Cudabiss you can scan a range but yes takes time.

A V1 scan needs both a fast SSD drive Mine is 4th holding 3.6tb of data and a fast GPU mine is GTX 1080 TI 24gb RAM and I7 CPU.

TS file: C:\Users\NET MEDIA\Desktop\100.5E_3733.211_H_7200_(2019-04-15 15.58.25)_dump.ts
Using PID: 33 Using file limit: 4096 MByte File length: 420 MByte
UsingFileLen: 440754720 bytes
Reading file ... Searching ...
Using payload size: 184
PID: 21h B8h-Crypt8:75 35 2A 95 1A 61 85 B6 [E] Count:7729

Time for searching Crypt8 = 1 sec.
Search CW Start
RBT file: F:\Biss V1 file\B8hxFFh\B8hxFFh_table2\CSA_B8hxFFh_10000h.rbt
Calc all 10000h end values for this crypt ... (using file cache)
Search end values in RBT ...
Searching CW in RBT ...
Found 215184 possible chains (harddisk only search time = 75 sec.)

Analysing chains ... (will be 10 times slower if an other thread is keeping the GPU busy)
found CW: ( cannot post CW here )
Search CW done (108 sec.)

CW list found this in 1 second. V2 also a few seconds as this is a known CW. V1 is always brute force on the crypt so takes time.
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I think I have spent way too much time and money already, my wife will not be happy with me haha. As you can see form my profile I have been on here since 2008, but just kept quite. I started spending back in the days when Sky One was FTA on 19.2e and D/D2-MAC was the encryption getting broken with 'wafer' cards (my very first buy was a Rediffusion, dont think they are around anymore)! Just been out of the game since 2014 due to health issues so just trying to get back up to speed and help with what i can in the process
Hey,is a my opinion, but historically,no commercial venture lasted or helped the freeware community like the approach of uninterested people that willingly supplied the right information to make things work,many university professors,high level chemists,some people with access to sophisticated advanced grade tools helped over time to make a long lasting situation for freeware developers,since the mid 90's.
That's the real help,and on top of this, commercial ventures starting to flourish.
But they do not help,they just develop something and run it to the ground,and when no more profit there is abandonment.
Millions of boxes sold and thrown away.
Is going to happen to this chinese boxes too,and their servers.
Just imagine,one guy posted here a fast approach to bruteforce keys,gave the way to simple people to get keys on their own,without this help,no server could have been possible,but clearly they exploited the situation,now you want to depend on them for finding your keys,kind of going backwards.
Same with emulation,oscam code is plastered all over the receivers firmware,exploiting freeware.
Again,my view,I tend to chose freeware and the people that support it,that's all.
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Hmm Ok. Thats your opinion, in the nicest possible way, im not sure I agree with that. Freeware is free for use as you like for no cost, possibly with he requirement of credit to the developer, hence the term freeware. And often something that starts off small is developed further by other people. Take Unix/Linux as an example. Its not shareware. Also I think you will find a lot of developments steps forward were from people like me working from there 'garage' - as an example, one of the biggest companies in the world is spawned from garage development - Apple! Also I see no reason for the boxes to be thrown away, they work perfectly fine as a normal receiver, and custom firmware could be built no problem. I built some custom firmware for my Nokia 9600S back in the day as the stock firmware was rubbish. Also don't agree with you use of the term 'simple people', theirs no need to belittle people because they don't understand cryptography; they might be a surgeon for all you know. As another example, i'm not brilliant in the mathematics of cryptography, but I do know a lot about distributed processing and can very easily write a server-less p2p program to split the computation over thousands of computers automatically, building on the technology that is already there. I dont believe expensive nvidia graphics cards are the way forward, distributed processing is over thousands of nodes, essentially free processing power.

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Ahh,the times of Dr Overflow....had my first Nokia 9200 back in 95' still have couple of them,motorola based units.
DVB98/2000 and Rod hewitt's DVBedit was top back then.
Old school.

I am not against development,in fact i support it,only when the development become something that do not benefit and people have to pay for everything (updates,access,others) is when collides.
Not saying simple people as to belittle people,just people that can simply use some inexpensive gadgets to get what they are after,without the deep knowledge,not disrespecting anyone.
And surely you have your own idea about how things can be based on your experience.
Again,carry on,any mass benefit is always welcome.

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As with anything written on the web, it can be sometimes hard to judge someones real intention/meaning. Sorry for that.

Yes I agree, when something that was developed with good intentions and released freely, but then gets sold by someone else, that's disgusting behavior. But that's also part of my reasoning behind making use of their servers/web services (if they actually are doing some sort of distributed processing to get the keys), because they are actually using someone else's work as the main selling point for their product/boxes. So my thinking was, lets give it back to the people freely and have a program that updates the softcam.key file automatically, or even a mobile app to get the keys quickly without interruption to other people.
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As with anything written on the web, it can be sometimes hard to judge someones real intention/meaning. Sorry for that.

Yes I agree, when something that was developed with good intentions and released freely, but then gets sold by someone else, that's disgusting behavior. But that's also part of my reasoning behind making use of their servers/web services (if they actually are doing some sort of distributed processing to get the keys), because they are actually using someone else's work as the main selling point for their product/boxes. So my thinking was, lets give it back to the people freely and have a program that updates the softcam.key file automatically, or even a mobile app to get the keys quickly without interruption to other people.
The fact of the matter is we do that now, we use there 40 USD box to find new keys then we extract them from there receiver and post them to be used on other receivers, it's a win win any way you look at it we still win.
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