My new Biss Server plans

BLACKCRUSADER said:

People do not concern yourself with how much my planned server setup would cost. It's my money to spend. I do it because I can. It will be interesting to see the performance of such a system.

It will either be a great bruteforce machine or a great gaming machine.

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Absolutely
I know some of my other hobbies cost stupid money. This looks like it will be mega once done. Best of luck I will be following the thread with interest.

The Holy grail of on the fly brute force decoding is of course the ultimate goal.
Perhaps a super computer? They can be rented now day's.....

If you do get the new hardware Blackcrusader, please post results for fastest & failed v1 rbt search, and BF speed MCW/sec.

@ Blackcrusader: That chain count is typical of public table1 + table2 merged, so I'm confident your table has ~28.5 billion chains / file size ~341GB.

File length: 3015 MByte At 30Mbps that's around 15 minutes of recording.

Same search, same table size, 10.8s for same CW here.

@barney115: I for one am guilty of spending way too much time on rbt.

I'd be interested if the video card you chose is in stock over there, here in NA $500 dollar cards are selling for up to $1500. Also CPU's seem to be sparse.

@blackcrusader, these crypt8 will work your system for a little longer than those selectively chosen (favourable times) you like to post:

25 C0 D1 42 1C 90 F4 13
8A 45 49 D8 E0 67 83 15
86 5F B0 B0 4E 89 20 9E
CF E9 16 E8 75 C8 A2 60
28 5D D1 C0 53 A7 AD B1
94 9D AF E0 2B 14 79 B8

And these even harder:
FB 78 43 9A 0A 91 D3 86
38 B2 6E 93 84 6F 9D 9C

Plain copy/pastes only, no mixing of table sizes v log output (post #12) or turning back time (post #24). I will be able to see if things don't add up.

I need clarification on what is your ystem now.

You started the thread having on hand a "PC (i7-6700 / 8GB / GTX1070TI / SATA3 SSD) ". And with desired to build a new one. Did you put together the new one?

In general I am interested to compare with the speed provided on last post. This means:

"RBT file: D:\Biss V1 file\B8hxFFh\B8hxFFh_table2\CSA_B8hxFFh_10000h.rbt"

I assume Table: V1 ONLY B8hxFFh_table2.z01-z23

And in average ( not to be exact )

**SSD Time: harddisk only search time = 96 sec
**GPU Time: Search CW done (103 sec.)

So Total search time: 103+96 = 199 sec?

Finally can you search an impossible crypt 8. Yes as when result in cw for crypt8 not found. That is the best way to test GPU speed as it should ensure more or lest constant length (the longest). We should create a standard like testing for "00 00 00 00 00 00". I do not know if that gets and impossible but hope you get an Idea.

I give you a personal example, in my case if I search for SEARCH_CW_CRYPT:"37 21 07 9B EE C9 13 FF" I end up using 0 GPU time, as it found on first GPU search. It gets even worst when I do it on second time for that number. As with the PC/HDD cache plus the program ecw file caches I find correct cw on 0 TOTAL time.

My modified RBT table only contains B8hxFFh_table1.z01-z24 and B8hx00h_table1.z01-z30 That is all I have.

@cayonerique are you confusing my system specs with that of the original poster's?

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Yess I see. Thanks for the clarification those are your PC specs.

Also I am sorry if did confuse you but some how my last post got incomplete 1rst time and I was editing it.

And I see you post some crypt8 to used as standard. See we where on same page.

Thanks a lot.

This been good test for me. I have learn a little more on my side.

Hardware
CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) 9600 Quad-Core Processor
MotherBoard: TA785GE 128M
** for Brute-Force the motherboard is a limiting factor due to limited Speed of my x16 PCIE. But for crypt8 should not be of big importance.
Memory 8GB ** but again old type lower speed. Again for crypt8/cw not important.
GPU: ATI Tahiti PRO [Radeon HD 7950
32 Compute Units, that result in 1792 stream core processors @ 800 MHz
3 GB of Memory

OS Linux Debian

RGT -
Original Table 1 ONLY of both CSA_B8hxFFh_10000h.rbt & CSA_B8hxFFh_10000h.rbt
CSA_B8hx00h_10000h.rbt 198.8 GiB (213,406,187,520 bytes)
CSA_B8hxFFh_10000h.rbt 162.8 GiB (174,751,481,856 bytes)
Total 198.8+162.8 = 361.6 GIB
Success rate B8hx00h_table1: 90.4% (904/1000 found)
Success rate B8hxFFh_table1: 86.3% (863/1000 found)

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In general I was assuming that my biggest time consumption was in read to disk ( in my case 2 128 ScanDisk + 1 128 Generic Flash ). But I spent the night on the program making sure that I could clearly track my GPU time consumption. So I made some changes. You did not said of what table 00 or FF where each test values. So I did 3 of all. The 2 so called hardest and the first one. In the next post is the rest of my results.

Using Crypt8 String: 38 B2 6E 93 84 6F 9D 9C
Table B8hx00h has been selected
Exhaustive Search: Stop at 1st cw found
ECW Creation
Calc all 10000h end values for this crypt.
GPU: Time creation for 10000h end values (0 min. 39 sec.)
Using file cache: /mnt/sdc6/CSA_RBT/CSA_B8hx00h_10000h_38B26E93846F9D9C.ecw
Chain Analysis
Matching ECW vs RBT Chains
Using Crypt8 String: 38 B2 6E 93 84 6F 9D 9C
9F Found unique:4264 Total:16687 in 20 sec
1F Found unique:4239 Total:16752 in 30 sec
BF Found unique:4245 Total:16806 in 23 sec
1F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 24 sec.)
3F Found unique:4272 Total:16720 in 31 sec
DF Found unique:4250 Total:16476 in 24 sec
9F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 24 sec.)
FF Found unique:4320 Total:17176 in 23 sec
5F Found unique:4334 Total:17145 in 32 sec
3F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 24 sec.)
7F Found unique:4244 Total:16694 in 26 sec
BF CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 24 sec.)
5F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 24 sec.)
DF CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 24 sec.)
7F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 23 sec.)
FF CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 23 sec.)
GPU Time on DoXRounds (3 min. 13 sec.)
Time on Search(4 min. 0 sec.)
Total Time (4 min. 40 sec.)
Please Press Exit
Done, Please Press Exit

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Notice how at the end my GPU is the one consuming time 5x24=120sec
Yes 2 minutes. I hope that if I wait for every 2 threads, I could reduce the GPU time. Interesting Theory.

It seems I can not upload a file to this area. So I will have to paste. Sorry.

Using Crypt8 String: 25 C0 D1 42 1C 90 F4 13
Table B8hx00h has been selected
Exhaustive Search: Stop at 1st cw found
ECW Creation
Calc all 10000h end values for this crypt.
GPU: Time creation for 10000h end values (0 min. 39 sec.)
Using file cache: /mnt/sdc6/CSA_RBT/CSA_B8hx00h_10000h_25C0D1421C90F413.ecw
Chain Analysis
Matching ECW vs RBT Chains
Using Crypt8 String: 25 C0 D1 42 1C 90 F4 13
9F Found unique:4290 Total:17007 in 20 sec
1F Found unique:4203 Total:16731 in 28 sec
BF Found unique:4206 Total:16772 in 20 sec
1F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 24 sec.)
3F Found unique:4202 Total:16722 in 29 sec
DF Found unique:4274 Total:17060 in 23 sec
9F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 24 sec.)
FF Found unique:4227 Total:16501 in 23 sec
5F Found unique:4415 Total:17278 in 31 sec
3F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 24 sec.)
7F Found unique:4353 Total:17362 in 25 sec
BF CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 24 sec.)
5F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 24 sec.)
DF CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 24 sec.)
7F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 24 sec.)
FF CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 24 sec.)
GPU Time on DoXRounds (3 min. 14 sec.)
Time on Search(3 min. 57 sec.)
Total Time (4 min. 37 sec.)
Please Press Exit
Done, Please Press Exit

Using Crypt8 String: 25 C0 D1 42 1C 90 F4 13
Table B8hxFFh has been selected
Exhaustive Search: Stop at 1st cw found
ECW Creation
Calc all 10000h end values for this crypt.
GPU: Time creation for 10000h end values (0 min. 39 sec.)
Using file cache: /mnt/sdc6/CSA_RBT/CSA_B8hx00h_10000h_25C0D1421C90F413.ecw
Chain Analysis
Matching ECW vs RBT Chains
Using Crypt8 String: 25 C0 D1 42 1C 90 F4 13
1F Found unique:4145 Total:14209 in 22 sec
9F Found unique:4054 Total:13930 in 22 sec
1F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 21 sec.)
3F Found unique:4040 Total:13671 in 22 sec
BF Found unique:4142 Total:14377 in 22 sec
9F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 21 sec.)
5F Found unique:4071 Total:14048 in 21 sec
DF Found unique:4061 Total:13765 in 24 sec
7F Found unique:4080 Total:13561 in 19 sec
3F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 21 sec.)
FF Found unique:4071 Total:13906 in 26 sec
BF CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 23 sec.)
5F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 21 sec.)
DF CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 21 sec.)
7F CW found. GPU Time (0 min. 21 sec.)
CW: 98 8A 37 59 F6 34 B8 E2
GPU Time on DoXRounds (2 min. 33 sec.)
Time on Search(2 min. 56 sec.)
Total Time (3 min. 36 sec.)
Please Press Exit
Done, Please Press Exit
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Using Crypt8 String: FB 78 43 9A 0A 91 D3 86
Table B8hx00h has been selected
Exhaustive Search: Stop at 1st cw found
ECW Creation
Calc all 10000h end values for this crypt.
GPU: Time creation for 10000h end values (0 min. 39 sec.)
Using file cache: /mnt/sdc6/CSA_RBT/CSA_B8hx00h_10000h_FB78439A0A91D386.ecw
Chain Analysis
Matching ECW vs RBT Chains
Using Crypt8 String: FB 78 43 9A 0A 91 D3 86
9F Found unique:4253 Total:16780 in 21 sec
1F Found unique:4375 Total:17566 in 29 sec
BF Found unique:4349 Total:17185 in 20 sec
1F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 24 sec.)
3F Found unique:4192 Total:16667 in 30 sec
DF Found unique:4354 Total:17452 in 21 sec
9F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 24 sec.)
FF Found unique:4289 Total:17081 in 20 sec
5F Found unique:4230 Total:16619 in 30 sec
3F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 24 sec.)
7F Found unique:4291 Total:17556 in 26 sec
BF CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 24 sec.)
5F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 24 sec.)
DF CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 24 sec.)
7F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 24 sec.)
FF CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 24 sec.)
GPU Time on DoXRounds (3 min. 14 sec.)
Time on Search(3 min. 58 sec.)
Total Time (4 min. 38 sec.)
Please Press Exit
Done, Please Press Exit

Using Crypt8 String: FB 78 43 9A 0A 91 D3 86
Table B8hxFFh has been selected
Exhaustive Search: Stop at 1st cw found
ECW Creation
Calc all 10000h end values for this crypt.
GPU: Time creation for 10000h end values (0 min. 39 sec.)
Using file cache: /mnt/sdc6/CSA_RBT/CSA_B8hx00h_10000h_FB78439A0A91D386.ecw
Chain Analysis
Matching ECW vs RBT Chains
Using Crypt8 String: FB 78 43 9A 0A 91 D3 86
9F Found unique:4052 Total:13787 in 22 sec
1F Found unique:4083 Total:13787 in 22 sec
1F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 21 sec.)
3F Found unique:4151 Total:14178 in 22 sec
BF Found unique:4122 Total:13769 in 22 sec
9F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 21 sec.)
DF Found unique:4028 Total:13634 in 21 sec
5F Found unique:4072 Total:13892 in 22 sec
FF Found unique:4061 Total:13739 in 21 sec
3F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 21 sec.)
7F Found unique:4125 Total:14034 in 22 sec
BF CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 21 sec.)
5F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 21 sec.)
DF CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 21 sec.)
7F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 21 sec.)
FF CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 21 sec.)
GPU Time on DoXRounds (2 min. 53 sec.)
Time on Search(3 min. 16 sec.)
Total Time (3 min. 56 sec.)
Please Press Exit
Done, Please Press Exit

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Using Crypt8 String: 38 B2 6E 93 84 6F 9D 9C
Table B8hx00h has been selected
for this see previous post


Using Crypt8 String: 38 B2 6E 93 84 6F 9D 9C
Table B8hxFFh has been selected
Exhaustive Search: Stop at 1st cw found
ECW Creation
Calc all 10000h end values for this crypt.
GPU: Time creation for 10000h end values (0 min. 40 sec.)
Using file cache: /mnt/sdc6/CSA_RBT/CSA_B8hx00h_10000h_38B26E93846F9D9C.ecw
Chain Analysis
Matching ECW vs RBT Chains
Using Crypt8 String: 38 B2 6E 93 84 6F 9D 9C
1F Found unique:4062 Total:13815 in 22 sec
9F Found unique:4124 Total:14279 in 22 sec
1F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 21 sec.)
BF Found unique:4088 Total:14044 in 22 sec
3F Found unique:4102 Total:13708 in 22 sec
9F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 21 sec.)
5F Found unique:4085 Total:13867 in 22 sec
DF Found unique:4119 Total:14243 in 22 sec
7F Found unique:4128 Total:13866 in 21 sec
3F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 21 sec.)
FF Found unique:4133 Total:14365 in 23 sec
BF CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 21 sec.)
5F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 21 sec.)
DF CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 21 sec.)
7F CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 21 sec.)
FF CW not found. GPU Time (0 min. 23 sec.)
GPU Time on DoXRounds (2 min. 54 sec.)
Time on Search(3 min. 18 sec.)
Total Time (3 min. 58 sec.)
Please Press Exit
Done, Please Press Exit

Interesting to see how AMD GPU does compared to nVidia.
Looking at the numbers, you should be able to reduce GPU time to around 1/4 with a lot of optimization.

Great job cayoenrique.

Those crypt8 I posted were for B8hxFFh - sorry I should have made that clear. They are all rare examples where the key is only found at chain links F000-FFFFh in the public tables, hence found most slowly by the public tools.