C-Band/Ka-Band Reception in the UK (Dish Project: LNBs, Dish, Alignment) - Post your results here...

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This is where I am up to:

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Finally feel like I am getting somewhere.

Getting Music Box on 4W in Ku-Band and Fox on 7.3W (and everything else from 53E to 30W as listed below) so Ku band sorted. :thum:

Only getting 20E, 3.3E, 5W, 11W C-Band at the moment but need to get the C-Band LNB further back (extend the dish arm) to get a better focus.

Thanks Colin for all the Hard Work!
 

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Anybody got anything from the Ka-Band in the UK (45W - 53E etc) yet?

(although for me a 4th dish would be too many, LOL)
 

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A year in the making, LOL
(all told less than an hour a week at it some weeks just watched telly as well so prob 48 hours work so far)

Now getting good signal on 3.3E Linear Polorization 49-51% and on 20E 49-51% (although lost one transponder had two tp's tuned in before, only getting a lock on one now :confused:), 5W ORTB worse (breaking up) & African Radios about the same, 11W up to 71% when I move dish from the menus but when I switch to a channel eg Rossia 2 on screen shows 67% Circular Polorization.

But I assume this is Because Colin decided to change the LNB skewed to give a better balance betwen H/V and L/R (with D Plate fitted)?

My signal strengths are slightly lower than forecast at Purple Sat, but finally looking good.

BUT!!! NOTHING FROM 10E - SURELY I SHOULD BE ABLE TO CATCH SOMETHING FROM THIS BIRD WITH 1.1 METER?

The footprint suggests I should have no issues:

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Blind search finds nothing (USALS 10E setting but I used USALS for 11W ok)

I know some transmissions will be less than the footprints EIRP but surely I should lock something, maybe someone can confirm the strongest transponder receivable in West Europe and I can try Disq 1.2/1.3 to see if I can get a lock........really doing my head in now - As mentioned I have Al Jazeera English, Al Jazeera America, BeIN Sports etc from 20E which shows a worse footprint! :confused::mecry::eek:
 

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here some bunch of collections of what I searched in some links

10E C-band TP

SYR TV
3692 R 1400 3/4 DVB-S/MPEG-2

TCV International HD
3707 L 1000 5/6 DVB-S2/8PSK MPEG-4

UBC TV,UBC TV,UBC TV and UBC TV
3721 R 3303 5/6 8PSK DVB-S2

StarTimes TV
3729 R 10321-5/6 DVB-S2 MPEG-4 8PSK

Times TV,Star Africa 2,UTV,QTV and Triple P
3731 R 97005/6 8PSK DVB-S2

LoveWorld Plus
3835 R 1000 4/5 DVB-S2/16APSK

Canal 3 Monde Niger
3839 R 1185 3/4 DVB-S2/8PSK MPEG-2

SYR TV
3955 R 1500 2/3 QPSK DVB-S

TVT 1 promo and TVT 2 promo
4039 R 2222 3/4 8PSK DVB-S2

hope that will help you my friend

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Good reception conditions this morning here (weather wise).

Managed to lock another 5W C-Band channel:

Télé Africa (DVB-S)

Freq: 4114 Pol: L SR: 2143 FEC: 5/6

Signal Level 90% Signal Quality 54% :thum:

Hope it stays locked, has carried La Liga games and other Sports Events (will check World Cup later)
 

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C-Band transponder I currently receive (db based on Flysat/Manufacturer's footprint info):

Express-AM44 @ 11°W (@45.7db):

4013R SR 10050 FEC 3/4 (DVB-S2/8PSK MPEG-4) RSCC Muxx (inc Rossia 2, NTV [HTB Russia]) TM 68-72%

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Eutelsat 5 West A @ 5°W (@39db):

4114L SR 2142 FEC 5/6 (DVB-S/MPEG-2) Télé Africa TM 52%-54%
4154L SR 2290 FEC 7/8 (DVB-S/MPEG-2) ORTB TV Benin TM 55%-58%

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Eutelsat 3A @ 3.3°E (@42db):

3764H SR 20328 FEC 2/3 (DVB-S/MPEG-2) Libyan Muxx (inc LRT Sport) TM 50%-52%

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Arabsat-5C @ 20°E (@37db):

4054L SR 27500 FEC 3/4 (DVB-S/MPEG-2) Aljazeera Muxx (inc beIN Sports Global) 48%-50%
3884R SR 27500 FEC 3/4 (DVB-S/MPEG-2) Arabsat Muxx (inc 2M Monde, Africa TV3 Wazobiyam, Saudi 1, Saudi 2, Saudi Sport 1)
below 11% no lock at the moment :(
.... and one other tp .... no lock at the moment ... info to be added shortly

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Been trying 10°E with no joy.... what do you guys think I should try next??? :

Yamal 202 @ 49° East
Badr6 @ 26° East
try - Eutelsat 10A @ 10° East - again
Rascom-QAF1R @ 2.9° East
Intelsat 10-02 - Thor 5/6 @ 1° West
 

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Update

3.3E moved to 7.9W inclined by 0.2 degrees and not getting at the moment :( has it left again?????????????????????

11W Flysat confirms the muxx as left (was ok for Champions League last Tuesday, but I couldn't get a lock last Wednesday [at least HTB / NTV Russia is available elsewhere]...thought it was just my set up until Flysat reported the bad news..... I guess 40E/53E will soon be active for these Russian Channels eg Rossia 2 [Sport]? ie I assume new Satellite Express-AM7 40°E is still scheduled for launch in the next 3 months or maybe Express-AM6 53°E still scheduled for launch late October)

Was hoping to have a play as off work tomorrow.... anybody know what is the strongest C-Band Europe (pref UK) transmission now???

empb

(missing my Rossia 2, contemplating 49E C-Band Multi-Stream reception and what kit I would need!!!!!)
 

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My Televes dish has moved a bit in the recent winds, taken off the C-Band LNB for now, going to realign with a MTI (Highline) / Inverto Black Premium Ku-Band and test Ka-Band shortly.... [then see if I can work out some way of having both C & Ka-Band on the Televes... maybe possible if no Ka-Band or only 9E Ka-Band for me!)
 

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Ka-Band

Disaster. Nothing at all received with a Inverto White Ka-Band Twin Circular Dual polarity 23mm LNB 19.7-20.2GHz (LO 21.20 GHz).

Main tests on 9E Eutelsat Ka-Sat where either a Data stream or Irish TV channels should be available on 20185 L

(Ref: http://www.flysat.com/ekasat9a.php)

My main problem here is if I set the LNB settings to SINGLE LNB type with 22KHz OFF and LO setting of 21.200 GHz. Even though I can Search for Channels on 20185 H or V, the Blind scan range is 22150 to 23350, which surely means the LO Settings are wrong???

help!!!! anybody got this working.......

(Using my Technomate TM 7102 and Televes Dish for these tests)

But def on 9E put Ku-Band Inverto LNB back on and same signal quality as my Techno LNB/Triax Dish (Slightly higher signal) on the FTA French channels for Switzerland (ie 12034 V 27500).
 

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Hi Guys
Reading with interest the C band project, I have old 1.5m set up in the garden with a titanium C1W-PLL on there at the weekend.

Im using my TM-6902 with a 4 way switch.

Good results so far 40E Express AM7 (strong signal) and Arabsat 20E

One question I had, the DVB-S TPs come in fine, DVB-S2 8PSK no luck, I am assuming that the 6902 does not support this despite being in the manual.

I am using Phantompatch-TM6902HDT2_142p-09-07-2014.

Happy to report any feedback on my C Band setup, Im in Norfolk UK.

Thanks

Andrew
 
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Just an update. TM6902 does appear to support DVB-S2 8PSK, checked on Hotbird 13E 12476 H all fine. Wonder why does not work on Express 40E C band. Insufficent signal level perhaps for S2 ? Hmmmm
 

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Possibly, have you tried ajusting skew of LNB or if signal too strong trying just a fraction off the Satellite (east or West)?
 

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Thanks empb good idea it's Early days, not totally sure of skew or focus as yet. Start of the project :) have dielectric plate installed

Do you get IRIB on 20E c band ?
 

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No. Still only got 3 transponders from 20E but not the IRIB one :(

Hopefully testing new LNB soon

And I realised your 40°E problem is not due to your kit you would need a DVB Card to get the DVB-S2 from 40°E as the DVB-S2 transmissions are Multistreams not standard DVB-S2 transmissions (maybe someone has tested the Openbox SX series? which opens some multistream transmissions):

http://www.flysat.com/expressam7.php
 

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Ah ha, thanks for that, would explain it.

Im hoping to find Rossiya 2 somewhere I heard there may be some football on there :)

Back to 20E tonight, see what I can get. This dish has no motor (as yet) so hand adjustment.....

One thing I did not notice is the trees that have grown up more or less directly south so its move it or cut down tree not sure what is easiest :)

Project continues....
 

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Moved back to 20E
IRIB 3964 marginal pic breakup (not useable)
3711 slightly better some breakup
3721 OK
3884 OK
3934 OK
4054 OK

More fine tuning needed
 

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Now, Getting signals from 40°E, 20°E, 10°E, 5°E, 5°W & 11°W on the following transponders:

40°E (Express-AM7) 3558 R (V) 2895 "GTRK Dagestan", 3562 R (V) 2905 "RGVK-DAGESTAN", 3567 R (V) 2895 "GRTK Vainash", 3571 R (V) 2905 "RTPC-KOMI", 3573 R (V) 2894 "GTRK Alania", 3579 R (V) 2905 "GTRK Volgograd TRV", 3587 R (V) 2905 "GTRK Udmurtia", 3595 R (V) 2905 "Kirov", 3677 R (V) 33480 "TRK5 +2","Kultura-3","Dubl-4+RRD4","Kultura+Vesti-FM","Rossiya+RR","TRK5 +0" & 3741 R (V) 1922 "TB KBR", 3582 R (V) 2895 "GTRK ORENBURG", 3590 R (V) 2895 "GTRK ELISTA".

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20°E (Arabsat-5C) 3884 R (V) 27500 "africa TV Wazobiya","Saudi-2","2M Monde","Iqraa","Al Manar","Africa TV Sawahill","Al-EKhbaria","El Mouritaniya" (TV de Mauritanie Satellite) & "AL-Mayadeen", 4055 L (H) 27500 Aljazeera Package inc "Qatar TV","Al Jazeera English" & "Al Jazeera America", 3935 L (H) 27500 "Southern Sudan","Abu Dhabi TV","Oman TV","Kuwait TV","Saudi TV","Qatar TV","Sharjah TV","Saudi-Quran","Sudan TV","Saudi-Sunnah","Libya Al Watanya" & "Hidayah" x 10.

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10°E (Eutelsat 10A) 3650 L (H) Chinese muxx (Encrypted in Skycrypt/Unitend).

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5°E (SES-5) 3692 L (H) 1300 "RAVE_TV".

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5°W (Eutelsat 5WA) 4156 L (H) 2288 "SCOPUS-NET-TECH" (ORTB TV Benin), 3648 R (V) 2169 "Tele Sahel", 3729 R (V) 29946 "CANAL ALGERIE","TVE INT Africa","TV CONGO" & "Al Maghribiya", 4159 L (H) 1792 "ORTB-BB-24" (ORTB Bénin Business 24), 4160 L (H) 1943 "RTG1 GABON", 3743 L (H) 2785 "CRTV" (CRTV Cameroon), 4114 L (H) 2142 "Program 1" (Tele Africa).

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11°W (Express-AM44) 3662 R (V) 10808 "1TVRUS zapad" & "RTR Planeta + RR".

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NOTE: Now H=L & V=R

Ka-Band project shelved for now as no signal at all on 9°E, where I was hoping to catch RTE2 HD. Heard that its no longer receivable down the road in Blackburn as well.

C-Band looks like anything above 37db on 14°W to 55°E and I have a chance of getting a signal lock on 1.06m.
 

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Just quick update, dish moved away from trees, looks like I have a few more TP's available than EMPB on 5W, also can get one TP on 1W, 3985 R, BBC Africa radio feed. No luck with Fox News as yet 3722 R.

Early days still working on the feed horn distance and ground mount.
 
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