How to post a good C8 (instructions for the newbies)

abra26

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OK. Thank you for reply. So if intelnal HDD will have too small capacity I can run RBT file on external HDD? It wont be perfect, but it can be running from external HDD? I mean V1 RBT.
 

gotya

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yes it is

but interal is better is because long life of it's fixed position.

and be considered it's all about the speed of reading of HDD that's why we go for SSD so the searching for key will take just 2 to 5 min where in HDD it takes from 30mins to 45mins

wish this helped you

Regards !!!
 

gotya

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a good example of the today's post

4.9e 12693V33333 mpeg4

Code:
TS file: D:\tvrec2\FTS-UHD_OB_ENC2_LL_12693_V_33333_20160813_1020_[B][COLOR="Red"]VPID_37[/COLOR][/B].ts
Using all PIDs
Using file limit: 4096 MByte
File length: 364 MByte
UsingFileLen: 382521532 bytes
Reading file ...
Searching ...
Using payload size: 184
PID:  23h  B8h-Crypt8:71 EA 68 A0 20 98 14 24  [E] Count:1982
PID:  23h  B8h-Crypt8:9B FC C8 8B 86 BD 32 76  [E] Count:661
PID:  23h  B8h-Crypt8:C0 ED D8 33 AF EF 0E AB  [E] Count:661
PID:  23h  B8h-Crypt8:FC 7B DC 2B 59 56 DD 7E  [E] Count:661
PID:  23h  B8h-Crypt8:4B C1 50 8E A4 78 8C 06  [E] Count:660
PID:  23h  B8h-Crypt8:87 17 3D 48 6C 10 CA 51  [E] Count:660
PID:  23h  B8h-Crypt8:A6 D5 F1 F0 5B FD A0 D7  [E] Count:660
PID:  23h  B8h-Crypt8:B8 FB 3B 5F A9 92 03 83  [E] Count:660
...

PID:  29h  B8h-Crypt8:71 EA 68 A0 20 98 14 24  [E] Count:1981
PID:  29h  B8h-Crypt8:4B C1 50 8E A4 78 8C 06  [E] Count:661
PID:  29h  B8h-Crypt8:D3 D3 63 3A 59 E5 46 BD  [E] Count:661
PID:  29h  B8h-Crypt8:87 17 3D 48 6C 10 CA 51  [E] Count:660
PID:  29h  B8h-Crypt8:9B FC C8 8B 86 BD 32 76  [E] Count:660
PID:  29h  B8h-Crypt8:A6 D5 F1 F0 5B FD A0 D7  [E] Count:660
PID:  29h  B8h-Crypt8:B8 FB 3B 5F A9 92 03 83  [E] Count:660
PID:  29h  B8h-Crypt8:C0 ED D8 33 AF EF 0E AB  [E] Count:660
...

PID:  2Ah  B8h-Crypt8:71 EA 68 A0 20 98 14 24  [E] Count:22983
PID:  2Ah  B8h-Crypt8:10 25 67 79 E0 5B 61 3D  [E] Count:793
PID:  2Ah  B8h-Crypt8:11 1D 55 42 6E AA 44 AC  [E] Count:793
PID:  2Ah  B8h-Crypt8:97 E0 A2 0F D5 BC 1C 92  [E] Count:793
PID:  2Ah  B8h-Crypt8:9C A5 A1 1F FE DD EC CC  [E] Count:793
PID:  2Ah  B8h-Crypt8:DF F3 80 02 71 3E 73 42  [E] Count:793
PID:  2Ah  B8h-Crypt8:3B 16 78 D4 69 B5 CD 54  [E] Count:792
PID:  2Ah  B8h-Crypt8:42 81 10 D1 E3 31 B1 DB  [E] Count:792
...

PID:  2Bh  B8h-Crypt8:71 EA 68 A0 20 98 14 24  [E] Count:22983
PID:  2Bh  B8h-Crypt8:10 25 67 79 E0 5B 61 3D  [E] Count:793
PID:  2Bh  B8h-Crypt8:11 1D 55 42 6E AA 44 AC  [E] Count:793
PID:  2Bh  B8h-Crypt8:97 E0 A2 0F D5 BC 1C 92  [E] Count:793
PID:  2Bh  B8h-Crypt8:9C A5 A1 1F FE DD EC CC  [E] Count:793
PID:  2Bh  B8h-Crypt8:DF F3 80 02 71 3E 73 42  [E] Count:793
PID:  2Bh  B8h-Crypt8:3B 16 78 D4 69 B5 CD 54  [E] Count:792
PID:  2Bh  B8h-Crypt8:42 81 10 D1 E3 31 B1 DB  [E] Count:792
...

Time for searching Crypt8 = 1 sec.

we always say and repeat to provide us the PID Crypt8 stream type

we don't need the stream type of the feed itself

ie:

you have the same crypt8 reading with these pids which is a good thing to know that the key is in this Crypt8

PID: 23h B8h-Crypt8:71 EA 68 A0 20 98 14 24 [E] Count:1982
PID: 29h B8h-Crypt8:71 EA 68 A0 20 98 14 24 [E] Count:1981
PID: 2Ah B8h-Crypt8:71 EA 68 A0 20 98 14 24 [E] Count:22983
PID: 2Bh B8h-Crypt8:71 EA 68 A0 20 98 14 24 [E] Count:22983

so according to my serach the CW was found by 00h plain table which means that the crypt8 pid { 23,29,2A and 2B } are Audio Pids Mpeg because your Video Pid is 37 DEC Mpeg4 = 25 Hex

and there is NO crypt8 for Video :confused:
PID: 25h B8h-Crypt8:XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX [E] Count:????

so just tell us only the stream type of the crypt8 pid ==> { 23,29,2A and 2B }

I hope you understand

PM sent with CW :cool:
 

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hi dear brothers.
i need little help from u to identify the table of biss from crypt8...

as we see (PID: 102h, 200h, 65h, 134h)or many other pids while searching cryp8 from ts. how we know the table from these pids. which table will search the crypt8 of different pids crypt8 values?
 

barney115

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102h [ 258 Decimal ] , 200h [ 512 Decimal] , 134h [ 308 Decimal ] MPEG 4 - B8hxffh Plain Table

65h [ 101 Decimal ] = MPEG 2 - B8hx00h Plain Table

Those are all very,very common PIDS for various Feeds that we will find . :thum:

Good luck : ))
 

-=Sunny=-

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102h [ 258 Decimal ] , 200h [ 512 Decimal] , 134h [ 308 Decimal ] MPEG 4 - B8hxffh Plain Table

65h [ 101 Decimal ] = MPEG 2 - B8hx00h Plain Table

Those are all very,very common PIDS for various Feeds that we will find . :thum:

Good luck : ))

Thanks dear barney brother for useful info. can you give me all pid tables like u mentioned different pids with plain table. or any post or site where all crypt8 pids with table shown. because many other pids found with oher than these. i need complete pids with tables. Thanks.
 

miziolnb

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10960 H 4125 encripted biss

Search Crypt8 in TS Start
TS file: C:\Program Files (x86)\dvbdream\Record\Encoder 1 noevent 20161013_144612 #1.ts
Using all PIDs
Using file limit: 4096 MByte
File length: 40 MByte
UsingFileLen: 42430472 bytes
Reading file ...
Searching ...
Using payload size: 184
Time for searching Crypt8 = 0 sec.


Why i don't find Crypt8 ?:confused:
 
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10960 H 4125 encripted biss

Search Crypt8 in TS Start
TS file: C:\Program Files (x86)\dvbdream\Record\Encoder 1 noevent 20161013_144612 #1.ts
Using all PIDs
Using file limit: 4096 MByte
File length: 40 MByte
UsingFileLen: 42430472 bytes
Reading file ...
Searching ...
Using payload size: 184
Time for searching Crypt8 = 0 sec.
Why i don't find Crypt8 ?:confused:

big new record with no problem...:thum:
 

miziolnb

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10968 H 4125 encripted biss

Mpeg-2

Search Crypt8 in TS Start
TS file: C:\Program Files (x86)\dvbdream\Record\10968_25_10.ts
Using all PIDs
Using file limit: 4096 MByte
File length: 3001 MByte
UsingFileLen: 3147763712 bytes
Reading file ...
Searching ...
Using payload size: 8
Using payload size: 16
Using payload size: 24
Using payload size: 32
Using payload size: 40
Using payload size: 48
Using payload size: 56
Using payload size: 64
Using payload size: 72
Using payload size: 80
Using payload size: 88
Using payload size: 96
Using payload size: 104
Using payload size: 112
Using payload size: 120
Using payload size: 128
Using payload size: 136
Using payload size: 144
Using payload size: 152
Using payload size: 160
Using payload size: 168
Using payload size: 176
Using payload size: 184
Time for searching Crypt8 = 86 sec.

Why I don't find C8 with 3 gigabyte data recorded:confused:

I have Nvidia Ge Force GT 610 ( 48 cores),it's a scheda video problem?
 

gotya

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just noticed something and I need to make it clear for newbie members

33e
11473 v 28800
ita390 service 1
Search Crypt8 in TS Start
TS file: C:\Users\Elton Alda\Documents\vlc-record-2016-11-20-15h19m29s-http___192.168.0.54_8001_1_0_1_1_1_FFFF_14AACD1_0_0_0_-.ts
Using all PIDs
Using payload size: 184
Using file limit: 4096 MByte
File length: 1087 MByte
UsingFileLen: 1140770840 bytes
Reading file ...
Searching ...
PID:1040h Crypt8:36 D2 23 9E 25 5D F1 27 [E] Count:12551
After seraching the key was found by B8hx00h plain table therefore the feed is mpeg 2???
mpeg 4 v pid
OK BUT you don't get it yet

the key was found by plain table 00h which is using actually for Mpeg 2 feeds and also Audio pids for both { Mpeg4 feeds and Mpeg2 feeds }

the Crypt8 you posted 1040 was for APID NOT VPID
PID:1040h Crypt8:36 D2 23 9E 25 5D F1 27 [E] Count:12551

1040 in HEX = 4160 DEC
this pid belongs to Audio PID that's why we always ask you people to provide us a complete information about the Crypt8 PID

NOTE:
THE CW IS NOT ALWAYS FOUND BY FFH PLAIN TABLE IF THE FEED IS MPEG 4. ONLY IF THE CRYPT8 IS VPID AND HAS A HIGH READING COUNT.

IF THE CRYTP8 IS APID THEN THE SEARCH WILL BE IN 00H PLAIN TABLE.

IF THE CRYPT8 IS VPID AND HAS THREE HIGH READING COUNTS THEN THE SEARCH WILL BE IN B8hx030000h PLAIN TABLE.

I hope it's clear now.
 

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Hi, I'm trying to apply all the suggestions I found in this forum.
Now I'm asking you if I understood well.... Find below the result of a ts file analysis

Using file limit: 4096 MByte
File length: 1009 MByte
UsingFileLen: 1058491700 bytes
Reading file ...
Searching ...
Using payload size: 184
PID: C7h B8h-Crypt8:23 EC 5F FE 7C 71 E9 C2 [O] Count:141332
PID: C7h B8h-Crypt8:86 1A BB AC 53 99 06 88 [E] Count:137238
PID: C7h B8h-Crypt8:2E 06 A4 F5 4B F6 E1 DE [O] Count:110696
PID: C7h B8h-Crypt8:2C FE FD 06 FF 0D BF 6C [O] Count:12937
PID: C7h B8h-Crypt8:35 D7 F8 2D F1 BB 09 01 [O] Count:12848
PID: C7h B8h-Crypt8:B2 2F 46 79 B8 A1 D0 12 [E] Count:12435
PID: C7h B8h-Crypt8:C3 55 C4 E5 D0 9C AB 70 [O] Count:9840
PID: C7h B8h-Crypt8:95 F8 7A 51 F1 0F 87 4D [E] Count:8621
...

PID: 202h B8h-Crypt8:F3 7C 1F AB 3B 6C 69 BD [E] Count:217800
PID: 202h B8h-Crypt8:31 18 19 D4 C8 AE 7E D1 [E] Count:429
PID: 202h B8h-Crypt8:4C 46 C6 87 8F 9D 5C A0 [E] Count:321
PID: 202h B8h-Crypt8:87 9D A5 91 3E 2B E4 7E [E] Count:212
PID: 202h B8h-Crypt8:04 63 F8 81 D5 18 84 63 [E] Count:27
PID: 202h B8h-Crypt8:F9 AC 82 9A EF F8 DD 8C [E] Count:6
PID: 202h B8h-Crypt8:AB 2E 9A 5B F8 96 A4 02 [E] Count:5
PID: 202h B8h-Crypt8:ED 27 B8 AD BE 28 4F 27 [E] Count:4
...

PID:1012h B8h-Crypt8:00 02 65 67 89 4B 58 70 [E] Count:17480

Could you tell me if my following ideas are true:

a) it seems the b** key should be extracted from audio pid (1012h) using 08hxFFh plain table (I'm downloading it)

b) keys won't be found from video pid (202h); I'm trying without
success starting from the crypt 8 with higher counts, using B8hxFFh table

Two other questions:
- what is C7h pid; is it useful to find keys
- how can I understand if FFh or 03000h or other plain table have to be used in the research

Thanks for your kind answer

Marco
 
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dale_para_bajo

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Listen I am new on this. So I can easily be wrong. I mean you should wait for the expert response.

It seems you think that if you have high count of crypt8 it means you will find a CW. That is not always true.
Now looking at your name Marco I assume you are hispanic. I had seen many logs with high count that will not produce cw from crypy8. As well as many logs that will not even have crypt8. So always consider the posibility that failure is one of the options.
 
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