Undecided! Octagon or Icecrypt

Nolia

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I am interested in the Icecrypt S4000 and Octagon Octagon SF1018. They look the same to me just different brand name. Are they good boxes and will they take my Cyfra+ and Al Jaz card?? Also another one in the mix is Icecrypt STC6000.
I want something for a novice but also good to BENEFIT me a lot. I got rid of my TM6800 HD.
 
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