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Are there any non DIY brackets with less than 6 degree between LNBs available that will work for 1 Ku-Band & 1 C-Band LNB, and what about weight issues on the LNB arm that I have read about issues with elsewhere?

I also read about LNBs which provide both C-Band and Ku-Band from the same LNB.

And how much signal is likely to be lost by not using the Dielectric Plate as obviously Linear H/V is required from the Ku-Band: But Circular R/L is required from the C-Band.

Anyone got any feedback on C-Band LNBf's.....

The BSC621-2D Dedicated Universal C/Ku Band Linear LNB LNBf sounds good Linear Ku-Band & Circular C-Band in one LNB:



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Should your area require the Ku and C polarities be opposite you can follow these simple instructions to change your BSC621-2D C/Ku LNBF.

Separate the C and Ku housings by removing the three screws that hold them together.

Remove the LNBF from the Ku housing by removing the 'F' connector nut and pushing on the 'F' connector until the LNBF is pushed out of the housing. Use care not to damage the 'F' connector.

In the picture below, using the left slot will make your Ku polarity the same as your C polarities. Using the right hand slot will make your polarities opposing or reversed.




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Conical Scalar with mounting bracket made for our HOTDISH90 offset dish but fits many other dishes. Use this Conical Scalar on the BSC421 or BSC422 with the HOTDISH90 and get C-band signals from the strong C-band satellites. Great for getting those C-band signals you always wanted without exceeding the 1 meter or smaller dish rule.

3 bolts to mount the scalar to the LNBF.

Includes the dish mounting bracket.

May also be used on the BSC-621-2D, BSC621-2, BSC621 and most LNBFs on the market.


Anyone else tried a similar project? And give me some advice please?
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Is there any Scalar ring needed for KU-Band ? , like Invacom LNB have. Mostly on prime focus Dishes, not on Off set
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Is there any Scalar ring needed for KU-Band ? , like Invacom LNB have. Mostly on prime focus Dishes, not on Off set
the feed is built into a lnbf or a matched feedhorn for the dish if using a c120 lnb. all lnbf,s have a scalar ring-feed inside them its that they are enclosed in plastic,regards mdt
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Don't bother with a dualband LNB, they're crap on Ku. ESX241 is a good performer for a C band LNB and cheap too. The dielectric plate that comes with it is OK but it's easy to make one that performs better. DoctorOfSat has a design that is a similar size but will give a couple of dB more to circular signals.

1-1.1m is really really small for C band, 3E will produce some signals, 20E, 5W, 40W, maybe 58W but not much more.
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If I get some C-Band channels from the 4-5 satellites (3.3E, 20E, 5W & 11W) then its more than I am getting now. So for a day re-installing the dish and 30 quid or so for new LNBs and a another 60-80 for brackets (DIY or otherwise), Colins electrical engineering experience and scaffolding is worth it, for the hobby.

I've decided on the Smart Titanium Rocket Single Universal 0.1db LNB for Linear Universal Ku-Band and the BSC421 for Circular C-Band, can you give me more info on this "improved" dielectric plate..... any extra gain is good

Prob going to modify one of those metal multi LNB rails, unless the Twin version of the Multifeed allows the LNBs to be closer:

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@EMPB do you have your td110 up again now? and if so are you having any luck? regards mdt
Not yet no booked the week off 15th to 23rd June (except Friday the 21st!!! Hopefully just phone in on the day!!!), scaffolding going up below the window/dish bracket line late next week.

Going for the Smart Titanium Rocket Single LNB for Ku-Band on the LNB arm and using a 4 Degree bracket*[/URL] fitting a DMS International BSC421 C-band LNB offset.

Align on Intelsat 10-02 @ 0.8W with Ku-Band. Test Badr4 @ 26E, then Test weak signals at Astra 4A @ 4.8E (Viasat SoftN*D*S channels and MagiSat Biss channels) and then add the C-Band LNB on the 4 Degree offset to get the 3.3E Eutelsat 3A/B/C(?) C-Band channels and then take it from there.

*In an ideal world but more than likely to be 4 Degree+ spacing (1W/3E etc) we will only find out when we get it up and get the LNBs as close together as we can........

edit: copied from Encryptions Chat thread Eutelsat (2M MENA, 2M Monde, 2M National) 3.1E
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check 7.3w and earth tv on 15west to peak the west side aswell,regards mdt

edit: moved from Encryptions Chat thread Eutelsat (2M MENA, 2M Monde, 2M National) 3.1E
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Never been able to catch anything from 7.3W but I take it there are tp's on it like Badr4 that can be got in the UK?:



Been told in my neck of the woods 90cm-1m should be enough for strong tp's in good weather.

But yes will test 5W & 15W as well
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try 10.727.h.30000/10.758.v.27500/11.296.h.27500/11.431.v.27500/12.437.v.27500/12.467.h.27500. there are also a few txp,s on nilesat 102 but these are weaker still. i get 451 channels from 7.3 which hold up in normal rain. i dont bother with nilesat 102 really. you should also get a couple hundred channels off amos [email protected] aswell but these are slightly weaker for me.
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Well my Triax dish is back up on its wall mount bracket, set up at 1W/0.8W for now with just the Ku-Band Smart Titanium Rocket Single LNB.

Setting up the rest tomorrow.

Spiderbox HD9000 does not seem to operate Vertical High band correctly now? High/Low Band, Vertical/Horizontal works on loop-through from my Topfield TF4000 PVR thou...

And meant to ask what material is best to waterproof the C-Band LNBf?
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