Physical Layer Scrambling

EnoSat

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Adam792

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Known PLS for 30 West - 11492 V , DVB-S2/8PSK , SR-7522 , FEC-8/9 ?
Did anybody ever manage to lock this signal?

The parameters would give a TS bitrate of ~19.9Mbps which would be exactly enough to carry the Portuguese DVB-T signal.

11512V (Orange France) on 5°W was turned off today, maybe this will become the final French multistream? Or 11555V when the Fransat SD information is switched off. I guess we'll find out soon

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Did anybody ever manage to lock this signal?

The parameters would give a TS bitrate of ~19.9Mbps which would be exactly enough to carry the Portuguese DVB-T signal.

11512V (Orange France) on 5°W was turned off today, maybe this will become the final French multistream? Or 11555V when the Fransat SD information is switched off. I guess we'll find out soon

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Somebody has found the PLS for 11492V - It's COMBO 2388 and it's carrying Spanish autonomic DVB-T channels for Castilla La Mancha (CMT).

It doesn't lock easily in software because it isn't multistream but "regular" DVB-S2 just with PLS!
 

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@EnoSat: thank you for the links. Abertis however uses Transport Layer Scrambling. Whole terrestrial muxes are encapsulated as one data PID, which is encrypted using BISS.

Do you think there might be transponders using Physical Layer Scrambling on Hispasat? Does your Teleman S1680 show more transponders that we could investigate?
 

Adam792

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@EnoSat: thank you for the links. Abertis however uses Transport Layer Scrambling. Whole terrestrial muxes are encapsulated as one data PID, which is encrypted using BISS.



Do you think there might be transponders using Physical Layer Scrambling on Hispasat? Does your Teleman S1680 show more transponders that we could investigate?



Yes to view the Abertis channels you only need a normal DVB-S2 card, and you do the decryption of the full encapsulated TS in software (I use TVHeadend to tune and VLC to decode).

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I'd like to know too if there are other PLS transponders though! Maybe/hopefully we will find Portuguese DVB-T or more Spanish regional multiplexes. :D


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Known ABERTIS transponder on Hylas 1 ?
12403V and 12483V ?
Same channels as Hispasat ?
 

Adam792

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Known ABERTIS transponder on Hylas 1 ?

12403V and 12483V ?

Same channels as Hispasat ?



12483V is the same system as Abertis on 30W, carrying Aragón TV (this used to be on 30W 11342H but they moved to Hylas as it was cheaper I think!)

I don't know what is carried on 12403! It could be another regional Spanish terrestrial feed though!


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11421,H,3799,12,NBC_QPSK- 12,2dB
11424,H,1899,35,NBC_QPSK- 14,4dB
Can someone check.
These two frequencies are active for more than 24 hours,maybe the PLS.
 

Adam792

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5W 11509H now switched to suspected PLS DVB-S2 (Symbol rate 29500 or 30000).

Stream IDs and PLS mode/code unknown. May be GOLD 121212 like 12648V (these are extremely likely to be French TNT channels like 12648)? Please can anybody help? :)
 
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milan58

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5W 11509H now switched to suspected PLS DVB-S2 (Symbol rate 29500 or 30000).

Stream IDs and PLS mode/code unknown. May be GOLD 121212 like 12648V (these are extremely likely to be French TNT channels like 12648)? Please can anybody help? :)
5W 11509H
Code:
Gold: 50416
 

Adam792

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5W 11509H
Code:
Gold: 50416

Thanks!

11509H has now switched to 29500 symbol rate (same as 12648V). I had no signal until I changed this just now! :D

MIS 1, 4 and 6 with PLS GOLD 50416 still the same.

MIS 1
France 2
France 3 Sat
France 4
France Ô

MIS 4
M6
W9
6ter
Arte
France 5

MIS 6
TF1
TMC
NT1
LCP
NRJ12

All 1920x1080i HD.
 
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milan58

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Thanks Adam792 for the information.It can be used and PLS Combo 50416 gave the same result MIS1,4,6.
 

Adam792

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Also 50416 is the PLS code because these are feeds for French terrestrial TV, and -

50416 --> 05.04.16 = Date that French DVB-T changed to all MPEG4 HD! :D
 
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