Smart DVB + error of filters/SmartAVS

VictorLS

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is there any way around the low symbol rates problem with the 5520se?
Specification says that lowest workin symbol rate is 1MSymbol/s so I have to find ordinary (not feed) transponders available in East Russian Crimea:
23e5 12639v940 with two radio channels was good locked (and played without stuttering) by OMICOM but not locked with 5520SE with bda.dev:

So I repeat your mistake messages.
With blindscan.dev I get "Error locking transponder 12639"
But then I go to Channels -> Blind Scanner with follows settings and 5520SE locked and was written that two radio channel:

But with blindscan.dev still no lock in channellist so I switch to bda.dev and hear radio with small stuttering )
Than I've found some low SR (with 1000<SR<2000kS/s) transponders on 21e5:
1=11665,H,1250
2=11667,H,2083
3=11669,H,1666
4=11672,H,1852
which written TV channels with blindscan.dev but 1 with SR 1250kS/s not locked in channellist (2-4 shows well). And with bda.dev all 4 transponders shows well video and audio.
So with some difficulties low SR transponders with SR>1000kS/s can be watched with TBS 5520SE but if you need lock lower SR transponder you have to use another SAT-device.
 

gap30

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Specification says that lowest workin symbol rate is 1MSymbol/s so I have to find ordinary (not feed) transponders available in East Russian Crimea:
23e5 12639v940 with two radio channels was good locked (and played without stuttering) by OMICOM but not locked with 5520SE with bda.dev:

So I repeat your mistake messages.
With blindscan.dev I get "Error locking transponder 12639"
But then I go to Channels -> Blind Scanner with follows settings and 5520SE locked and was written that two radio channel:

But with blindscan.dev still no lock in channellist so I switch to bda.dev and hear radio with small stuttering )
Than I've found some low SR (with 1000<SR<2000kS/s) transponders on 21e5:
1=11665,H,1250
2=11667,H,2083
3=11669,H,1666
4=11672,H,1852
which written TV channels with blindscan.dev but 1 with SR 1250kS/s not locked in channellist (2-4 shows well). And with bda.dev all 4 transponders shows well video and audio.
So with some difficulties low SR transponders with SR>1000kS/s can be watched with TBS 5520SE but if you need lock lower SR transponder you have to use another SAT-device.

The problem occurs occasionally with the CAT FAILED TIMEOUT message, it may be a problem at my end regards my setup

I do commonly have problems specifically with 10e even with TP's at symbol rates such as 34000

Sometimes I pick up these signals with my dish pointed at 9e

Signals on 10e are always hit and miss for me, but all other sats are usually fine (weather permitting)
 

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I do commonly have problems specifically with 10e even with TP's at symbol rates such as 34000
You've asked above about low SR only. It's a pity I can't 100% remember what SAT-device (OMICOM or TBS 5520SE) I used while experimented with high SR 34000 4:2:2 feeds receiving.

Sometimes I pick up these signals with my dish pointed at 9e
It's very strange. Theoretically it's possible with small dish size and/or problems with dish's positioning. But I always have scanned (written) one or more ordinary transponders to control signal level to avoid positioning mistakes and move my dish step by step to get maximum signal/noise value.

Signals on 10e are always hit and miss for me
It's a pity but usually I can't lock 11500v10000 (Formula1 4:2:2 feed) and 11500v9874 (MotoGP feed) even with good weather without any cloud - signal just appears in some seconds and disappears (like beacon).
 
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gap30

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You've asked above about low SR only. It's a pity I can't 100% remember what SAT-device (OMICOM or TBS 5520SE) I used while experimented with high SR 34000 4:2:2 feeds receiving.


It's very strange. Theoretically it's possible with small dish size and/or problems with dish's positioning. But I always have scanned (written) one or more ordinary transponders to control signal level to avoid positioning mistakes and move my dish step by step to get maximum signal/noise value.


It's a pity but usually I can't lock 11500v10000 (Formula1 4:2:2 feed) and 11500v9874 (MotoGP feed) even with good weather without any cloud - signal just appears in some seconds and disappears (like beacon).

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The problem occurs occasionally with the CAT FAILED TIMEOUT message, it may be a problem at my end regards my setup

I do commonly have problems specifically with 10e even with TP's at symbol rates such as 34000

Sometimes I pick up these signals with my dish pointed at 9e

Signals on 10e are always hit and miss for me, but all other sats are usually fine (weather permitting)
Aah that's interesting, I also have been experiencing problems like this with feeds on 10e which have confused me. My dish was only installed recently, is spot on for all other satellites but the F1 last week was a no go for me. I manually moved it west about 5 steps and then locked it fine...

I'm now manually adjusting and storing the rotor position for 10e depending on the feed I'm watching.

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Aah that's interesting, I also have been experiencing problems like this with feeds on 10e which have confused me. My dish was only installed recently, is spot on for all other satellites but the F1 last week was a no go for me. I manually moved it west about 5 steps and then locked it fine...

I'm now manually adjusting and storing the rotor position for 10e depending on the feed I'm watching.

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I have just had to adjust my dish 5 steps west to lock the turkish football on 4.9e

Another thing that i did was change my device settings to bda.dev from bdas.dev

Same with the boxing on Saturday, to lock the feed on 10e i had to go to 9e

VictorLS is pretty knowledgeable about these issues
 

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I have just had to adjust my dish 5 steps west to lock the turkish football on 4.9e

Another thing that i did was change my device settings to bda.dev from bdas.dev

Same with the boxing on Saturday, to lock the feed on 10e i had to go to 9e

VictorLS is pretty knowledgeable about these issues
Worth mentioning I'm not using the setup in question on this thread, I just happened to stumble across it...

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I tried move dish east-west while Sundays F1 GrandPrix but artifacts still same (as beacon) present.
10e 11428v34000 is very strong now without any dish moving and artifacts. Audio is synced with video on 4:2:2 LIGA SANTANDER 1 HD50 channel with soccer match LPA 1:0 DEP quite well.
Wilb, gap30, how many steps of yours positioneers to move dish one degree? In my case it's ~25 steps per degree.
 
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gap30

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I tried move dish east-west while Sundays F1 GrandPrix but artifacts still same (as beacon) present.
10e 11428v34000 is very strong now without any dish moving and artifacts. Audio is synced with video on 4:2:2 LIGA SANTANDER 1 HD50 channel with soccer match LPA 1:0 DEP quite well.
Wilb, gap30, how many steps of yours positioneers to move dish one degree? In my case it's ~25 steps per degree.

Not sure tbh, as I said earlier I usually step it west twice and then east twice till I lock a signal

Although in some cases 5 steps west, my dish may have moved a smidge in the recent high winds we had in the UK

Interesting thing to note is Willb is not using our setup
 
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Not sure tbh, as I said earlier I usually step it west twice and then east twice till I lock a signal

Although in some cases 5 steps west, my dish may have moved a smidge in the recent high winds we had in the UK

Interesting thing to note is Willb is not using our setup
I'm unsure myself - TM-2600 m3 is my rotor, Triax 1.1 is my dish. Black ultra twin lnb connected to two different STB...

It was professionally installed only a couple of months back by Purplesat so I know it's a decent setup! Wondered myself whether the winds may have tweaked it slightly, but everything else still seems to be fine. Kind of feel better knowing other people see odd behaviour like I've been seeing.

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Tonight 7e is strong enough
With TBS 5520SE locked
0=15
1=10962,H,9876,34
2=10962,V,9876,34
3=10974,H,9876,34
4=10974,V,9876,34
5=10986,H,9876,34
6=10986,V,9876,34
7=10998,H,9876,34
8=10998,V,9876,34
9=11022,H,9875,34
10=11045,V,9876,34
11=11057,V,9876,34
12=11069,V,9876,34
13=11081,H,9876,34
14=11093,H,9875,34
15=11105,H,9876,34
First 10962h9876 is very interesting feed:
1. It has very long name amd I've found BISS.dll can work with max 29 symbols only so I write
--------------------BISS.ini------------------------------
[BISSKEYS]
Football match 01 Slavia - Vi=58D5D5E152C0
-------------------BISS.ini------------------------------
instead of Football match 01 Slavia - Villareal
2. To deinterlace that channel I had to change LAV Video Decoder's settings

0.70.2.1-git is for 32bit only so I use it in WinXP.

Btw I've installed my 1,2x1,1 meter offset dish on SMR-1224 H-H mount by myself many years ago, control quality (but never adjust elevation and declination angles - it wasn't necessary - only positioneer for maximum signal of each interesting SAT) and repair it by myself and often can receive transponders my friends with same dish size can't to lock )
 
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Try this one:




Eutelsat 7A (7.0°E)
10961 V 9874 HD 4:2:2
ID : SATPROD F489-2
Event: UEFA Europa League - Group E - Lyon Vs Everton
 

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10974v9874 SALZBURG #21 MAIN weak for both OMICOM and TBS 5520SE now - many artifacts almost always stopped frame so unwatchable.
SATPROD F489-2 strong and normal feed - interviews are OK without any artifact.
 
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10974v9874 SALZBURG #21 MAIN weak for both OMICOM and TBS 5520SE now - many artifacts almost always stopped frame so unwatchable.
SATPROD F489-2 strong and normal feed - interviews are OK without any artifact.

SATPROD feed was unwatchable for me
 

VictorLS

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And what about 10974v9874 SALZBURG #21 MAIN ? It becomes stronger now - almost no artifact with OMICOM (but Q=40-100) and more artifacts with TBS 5520SE - almost unwatchable.
 
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