Satellite Dish size guide for UK & Europe

furzi

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according to lyngsat or flysat must be possible with 12o cm
in ireland :confused:
but mpeg 4 is HD

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21.6 east,16 east,10 east & 7 east Some feeds intended for rebroadcast are on reduced power & require the same as they use at the Cable Head Ends & Satellite Dish Farms used by the major broadcasters that is 240 to 500cm dish.
 
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I Trying today with my offset Dishes off 1'20meters in my home north Italy the orbital positions 2'9east the Rascom-QAF1R, and on my scanning only on KU band have only 2 active frequency :
11309 H 2788 Mpeg 4
ID : D24
Level 58%

11379 H 3655 Mpeg 4
Level 53% with 3 African channel's
LA voice Sainte Tv
Christal world tv
Global TV Africa
 

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William If You around

What do You prefer for 45 - 55w which frequence ist strong To try there ??

Thanks
 

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45 west China Radio
11605 H
DVB-S/MPEG-2
989 2/3

There is no Ku Band TV received passed Intelsat 25 @ 31.5° West at my location in the East of England.
 
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Please when requesting feed reception details state the following,
Your location,
The dish size you are using,
Your satellite receiver,

As this will help anyone helping you to give you a more accurate response,

Please do not pm me with questions that can be answered in open forum.
 
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This Dish size guide is for Active Ku Band Satellites that I received in the East of England

Revised & updated April 2nd 2017 (53 east to 45 west) by William-1

Express AM6------------------------53° east-------90 to 120cm
Yahsat-1A -------------------------52.5°east-----75cm Europe
TürkmenÄlem/MonacoSat---------52°east-------75cm West beam
Belintersat 1---------------------51.5°east------90cm Europe
Türksat 4B -----------------------50.0°east------75cm Europe
AzerSat-1 ------------------------46° east-------90 to 120cm for European beam
Intelsat-12 ----------------------45° east-------90 cm (incl. 0.2°)
Intelsat-904----------------------45° east-------90 cm
Turksat 3A & 4A-------------------42° east ------80cm for West beam
Hellas-Sat-2 ---------------------39°east--------80cm F-1 & F-2 beam
Eutelsat-36B----------------------36°east--------90cm reception for European beam
Eutelsat 33A ---------------------33.2° east ----90cm
Eutelsat 31A----------------------30.8° east ----100cm (incl. 2.1°)
Astra -2E/2F/2G-------------------28.2° east-----45 to 60cm.
Badr- 4 --------------------------26° east-------100 to 120cm
Astra--3B-------------------------23.5° east ----60 to 120cm
Eutelsat-21B----------------------21.5° east ----90 to 120 cm
Astra-1-KR/1L/1M/1N---------------19.2 °east-----45 to 60cm
Eutelsat 16A----------------------16° east ------75 to 120cm(some transmissions use reduced power)
Hotbird13B/13C/13E----------------13° east------75cm
Eutelsat-10A ---------------------10° east-------90 to 240cm (some transmissions use reduced power)
Eutelsat -9B ----------------------9°east--------75cm Wide beam
Eutelsat-7A/7B --------------------7 °east-------90cm to 120
SES-5 -----------------------------5° east-------100 to 240cm for this Nordic beam
Astra 4A---------------------------4.8° east-----100 to 240cm Nordic beam
Astra 4A --------------------------4.8° east-----75cm European beam
Eutelsat 3B -----------------------3.1° east-----90 to 120cm

Thor-5 /6 & 7 ----------------------0.8° west-------80 cm European beam
Thor-5 / 6 & 7-----------------------0.8° west------100 cm for Nordic beam
Intelsat-10-02 ----------------------1° west-----------90cm
ABS-3A-------------------------------3 west-----------100 to 180cm
Amos-2 / 3 & 7----------------------4° west-----------100cm to 180cm
Eutelsat 5 West A ------------------5° west ------------60cm Super beam
Eutelsat 5 West A ------------------5° west ------------90 to 120cm Steerable beam
Eutelsat 7 West A-------------------7.3°west------------90 to 180cm
Eutelsat 8 West B-------------------8° west-------------90cm
Express AM44------------------------11° west------------100 to 120cm
Eutelsat 12 West B -----------------12.5° west ---------90cm
Express-AM8-----------------------14.0° west---------100cm
Telstar-12 -------------------------15° west -----------90cm
Intelsat-901 -----------------------18° west -----------90cm
NSS-7 ------------------------------20°west ------------90cm
SES-4 ------------------------------22° west -----------90cm
Intelsat-905 -----------------------24.5° west----------90cm
Intelsat-907 -----------------------27.5° west ---------90cm
Hispasat 30W-4/30W-5------------30° west------------75cm
Intelsat -25-----------------------31.5° west-----------100cm
Intelsat-903 -----------------------34.5° west ---------90cm
Eutelsat 36 West A-----------------36° west------------90cm
Telstar 11N ------------------------37.5° west ---------90cm
Intelsat-14-------------------------45.1° west----------90cm

Looking at getting a new dish and trying to decide on size, would this list still be suitable or are there any amendments?

Many thanks
 

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Dish size guide 53E to 45W by William-1 18th March 2021

This Dish size guide is for Active Ku Band Satellites that I received in the East of England

Fully revised & updated March 18th 2021 (53 east to 45 west) work in progress still updating info,

Some of the satellites have been replaced since my last issue ...........William-1

Express AM6-----------------------53°east--------90cm to 120cm
TürkmenÄlem/MonacoSat-------------52°east--------90cm East & West beam
Belintersat 1---------------------51.5°east------100cm Europe
Türksat 4B -----------------------50°east--------60cm Europe
AzerSat-1 ------------------------46°east--------100cm for European beam
AzerSpace 2 / Intelsat 38---------45°east--------80cm European beam
Turksat 3A & 4A-------------------42°east -------80cm for West beam
Hellas Sat-3----------------------39°east--------70 to 90cm Europe
Hellas Sat-4--------------------- 39°east--------70cm Europe
Eutelsat-36B----------------------36°east--------90cm Europe
Eutelsat 33E ---------------------33.2°east -----70cm Europe
Astra -2E/2F/2G-------------------28.2°east------45cm to 60cm.
Badr- 4 --------------------------26°east--------90cm to 100cm
Astra--3B-------------------------23.5°east------60cm to 120cm
Eutelsat-21B----------------------21.5°east------90cm to 120 cm
Astra-1-KR/1L/1M/1N---------------19.2°east------45cm to 60cm
Eutelsat 16A----------------------16°east--------80cm to 100cm
Hotbird 13B/13C/13E---------------13°east--------70cm Europe
Eutelsat-10A ---------------------10°east--------90cm to 100cm for most transmissions
Eutelsat -9B ----------------------9°east--------70cm Wide beam
Eutelsat-7B/7C --------------------7°east--------80cm to 120
SES-5 -----------------------------5°east-------100cm to 240cm for these Nordic beams
Astra 4A---------------------------4.8°east-----100cm to 240cm Nordic beam
Astra 4A --------------------------4.8°east-----80cm European beam
Eutelsat 3B -----------------------3.1°east-----80cm to 120cm

Thor-5,6 & 7 -----------------------0.8°west-----------80cm European beam
Thor-5,6 & 7------------------------0.8°west-----------100cm for Nordic beam
Intelsat-10-02 ---------------------1°west-------------90cm
ABS-3A------------------------------3°west-------------100cm to 180cm
Amos 3 & 7--------------------------4°west-------------100cm to 180cm
Eutelsat 5 West B ------------------5°west ------------45cm to 60cm Transalpine beam
Eutelsat 7 West A-------------------7.3°west-----------100 to 120cm
Eutelsat 8 West B-------------------8°west-------------100cm to 120cm
Express-AM8-------------------------14°west----------80cm
Telstar-12 -------------------------15°west -----------100cm
SES-4 ------------------------------22°west -----------90cm
Intelsat 901 -----------------------27.5°west ---------80cm
Hispasat 30W-5/30W-6----------------30°west------------90cm to 100cm
Intelsat-903 -----------------------34.5°west ---------70cm
Intelsat-14-------------------------45.1°west----------70cm

Satellites with no regular Ku band transmission have been removed from this list,
This is just a guide some transmissions may require a larger dish depending on your location,
For example ESPN & MSNBC are a lot weaker than 3 years ago @ 15 west,
Also remember if you are after feeds these are sometimes a lot weaker & require a larger dish.
 
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I’m still quite new to this, and still trying to understand everything.

If you don’t mind me asking, how do you calculate the sizes. For example I’ve been using lyngsat and satbeams, and they give sizes of 55cm for UK for 52east.

I’m just erring on the side of caution at the moment, as I don’t want to buy a dish and then discover that it’s too small.
 

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I’m still quite new to this, and still trying to understand everything.

If you don’t mind me asking, how do you calculate the sizes. For example I’ve been using lyngsat and satbeams, and they give sizes of 55cm for UK for 52east.

I’m just erring on the side of caution at the moment, as I don’t want to buy a dish and then discover that it’s too small.

You have not mentioned where you are in Europe ?
When asking reception questions it is a good idea to give your location,

As for the dish size comparison with flysat ect as 52 east is at the end of my satellite arc with a smaller dish I will loose the signals when it rains or snows.
 

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Thanks, I’m based in the West Midlands, UK.

When you mean at the end of the arc, does that mean as you have calibrated the motorised dish to 1W, it loses the optimal position the further you go away from 1W?
 

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Not quite when the sky is clear I get good Ku band satellite signals from 53 east to 58 west,

But when it rains or there is a lot of moisture in the air the signals at the end of the arc are reduced in strength so with a small dish you will loose these signals,

There are no useful tv transmission these days past 30 west sad to say as these satellites mainly broadcast data 34.5 to 58 west,

There are some C band passed 34.5 west but you will need a C band Lnb & a larger dish 120cm to 240cm :eek:
 

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Thanks mate, for the biss feeds at 10e. Do you have any idea if a 97cm/100cm dish would be suitable, or would I need to go bigger?
 

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I get most of the feeds on 10E with a OP Gibertini 100 XP+ Inverto Black Ultra 0.2,
That I have modified by sawing 2 inches off the LNB Arm :thum:
This improved my reception as the arm was not the correct one for my dish :eek:
 

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100cm dish test:-

Well I thought my OP Gibertini 100 XP was better than some of the dishes I have tried over the years,

These included a 100cm Andrews & 100cm Orbital,

The Gibertini performed best over the 10.7 to 12.75 Ku band with a Smart Single Universal LNB Titanium Edition; 0.1 dB, Diameter 40 mm

That was a few years ago I have since tried several other Lnb's the best was the Inverto Black Ultra 0.2,
I took a photo of the Gibby with the IBU & the comments came back that I had the Lnb too far forward in the Lnb holder well it worked for me so I left it,

Then a few days ago some Lnb tests with a couple of Lnb caught my eye so I tried them on the Gibby & they did not work very well ?

This was the Golden Media 201+ & the Inverto Premium PLL,

So I thought back about the Lnb position & decided to saw 23mm off the end of the Lnb Arm :confused: then bolt the Lnb holder back on well if it did not work I could always add the sawn bit back on ,

But to my astonishment the new Lnb's performed very well.

Signals that were not there before now boomed in,

I then put the Inverto black ultra back on but this time much further back in the Lnb holder & the signals were vastly improved also the rain fade was less as the Lnb was getting more signal in its new position on the shortened Lnb arm.

I have read previous reports on line of Gibertini dishes being supplied with the incorrect feed arm for the reflector size. :eek:

Well at least I got my Lnb Arm sorted :thum:
 
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