Best Blind Scan Receiver for Feed Hunting

william-1

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Best Blind Scan Receiver for Feed Hunting
Blind Scan HD satellite receivers for Feed Hunting update 17-2 -2013


After trying several other HD Blind Scan receivers over the last 12 months I have again made the Spiderbox HD the best for Feed Hunting most of the new cheap HD receivers being produced are unsuitable for feed hunting.


The Top 4
1/Spiderbox HD9900 (Blind scan range of 500 to 45.000 symbol rate) reliability scores 99%
Display includes: Frequency,Symbol Rate, Modulation type DVB-S QPSK DVB-S2 8PSK or DVB-S2 QPSK,
8 MHz stepped blind finds all transponders with symbol rates
1,800 to 45,000 S/R
6 MHz stepped blind scan finds all transponders with symbol rates 1,500 to 45,000 S/R
4 MHz blind scan finds all transponders 1,200 to 45,000 S/R

2/Spiderbox HD9000 (Blind scan range of 500 to 45.000 symbol rate) reliability 99%
Blind Scan Specification as Spiderbox HD 9900

3/AZBox Premium HD+ (Blind scan range of 500 to 45.000 symbol rate) reliability scores 90%
+ 4:2:2 capability on the AZBox
The stepped Blind scan @ 5 MHz finds most transponders with symbol rates from 1,500 to 45,000

4/TM6900HDSuper+ (Blind scan range of 2000 to 45.000 symbol rate) reliability scores 90%
Stepped Blind Scan @ 4 MHz finds most transponders 2,200 to 45,000


The TM6900HD would have scored higher but for these issues
(Overwrites symbol rates with the next active transponder when within 4MHz so that 12734 H 2170 becomes 12734 becomes 2604 as the next transponder is 12738 H 2604 on 10 east & effectively wipes out the channel data,) cannot find symbol rates below 2000cps,

I did test other HD receivers but after exhaustive testing they were found to be unreliable for Feed Hunting due to various Hardware & Software faults that the manufacturer is unable to resolve.

The Spiderbox HD is without doubt the best Blind Scan receiver for Feed Hunters for the 4th year running.
 

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thanks a lot william-1 for your confirmation that you found after all the tests that you did on decoders for scanning blind on feed hunting

Does Spiderbox HD9000 or Spiderbox HD9900 support 4:2:2 ?

also I made a topic for getting some information about which good HD receivers that support 4:2:2 which we can find now in many feeds after blind scanning but there was no answer

here

List HD receivers that support 4:2:2

regards
 

william-1

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No the Spiderbox HD does not support 4:2:2 but as less than 5% of feeds use this format the Satellite PC card is probably a better route to go down as it has far more flexibility than any stand alone satellite receivers will have now or in the distant future,

More satellite transmissions are now using 16 APSK, 32 APSK, than are using 4:2:2 these days & these transmissions are invisible to all the currently commercially available HD satellite receivers.

This is the route that I will be following using an old Windows XP PC + TBS6925 DVB-S2 Professional TV Tuner PCIe Card

http://www.sat-universe.com/showthread.php?p=1009571#post1009571
 
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saj1985

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No the Spiderbox HD does not support 4:2:2 but as less than 5% of feeds use this format the Satellite PC card is probably a better route to go down as it has far more flexibility than any stand alone satellite receivers will have now or in the distant future,

More satellite transmissions are now using 16 APSK, 32 APSK, than are using 4:2:2 these days & these transmissions are invisible to all the currently commercially available HD satellite receivers.

This is the route that I will be following using an old Windows XP PC + TBS6925 DVB-S2 Professional TV Tuner PCIe Card

http://www.sat-universe.com/showthread.php?p=1009571#post1009571

hey mate, any ideas as to whats the minimum requirments for a dvb-s2 sat card for a pc? like graphics card, ram etc...

i really want to build like an all in one media centre with a dvb-s2 card...
 
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william-1

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TBS6925 PCI-E DVB-S2 Professional PCTV Tuner Card for Satellite Feed Hunting

System Requirements:
Windows 2000/XP/Vista/7 or Linux
DirectX9.0 or later Version
Available PCI Express x1,x4, x8 or x16 slot
Satellite Dish and LNB

For DVB-S:
1GHz CPU or above
256MB RAM or above
Graphic Card with at least 16MB RAM

For DVB-S2 HDTV:
Dualcore CPU
1GB RAM or Above
Graphic Card with at Least 64MB RAM
 

digi247

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I am curious as to the other makes of HD satellite receivers you tested as there is no mention of the DrHD brand which is the only one that incorporates a spectrum analyser which is invaluable to feed hunting.
 

digi247

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Not according to the manual it doesn't although they could have added it to a firmware and the 5402 range which is newer also dont have one

The DrHD series do though

 
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687/8P had it added.
digiTV AU, Spectrum Analyzer 28/07/09
Added Spectrum Analyzer
 

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imo its no suprise that the spiderbox has come top.... a**** freebies. untill you have tested say 50 different hd stb,s with blindscan your findings are not as concrete as they could be. regards mdt
 

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imo its no suprise that the spiderbox has come top.... a**** freebies. untill you have tested say 50 different hd stb,s with blindscan your findings are not as concrete as they could be. regards mdt

I would also go as far to say that to extensively test every HD blindscan satellite receiver that is available today would cost £1000's to actually purchase.

I think i will hold out judgement for a more shall we say Non Biased opinion, although i will agree that the TBS cards for PC's have an excellent reputation for Hardware blindscan.
 

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There's no better solution than a TBS card at the moment. The advantages are yet mentioned. Don't forget the Support for ACM, VCM, Multi Input Stream, 16APSK, 32APSK or Generic Stream Mode.
 

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There's no better solution than a TBS card at the moment. The advantages are yet mentioned. Don't forget the Support for ACM, VCM, Multi Input Stream, 16APSK, 32APSK or Generic Stream Mode.

I could not agree more with you the TBS card beats evrything available at the moment bar none
 

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so which is the best dvb-s2 card out there?

if you do say tbs, then which model?
i've seen quiet a few...
 

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so which is the best dvb-s2 card out there?

if you do say tbs, then which model?
i've seen quiet a few...


Tbs 6922 if you need or want to spend less (only 70 euros), but you have to renounce to multi input stream channels (and to channels with symbol rate under 1600 during blind search due to a hardware bug).
I think it's a good compromise and a good way to start

Ciao
 

palisanderb1

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Dear users. It is possible watch live feeds with vu plus solo2? I do not want scan these feeds but I want only to watch feed with vu plus solo2.
I have a motorized 115 emme esse with inverto black ultra and live in slovakia.

Sorry for my bad english.
 

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Dear users. It is possible watch live feeds with vu plus solo2? I do not want scan these feeds but I want only to watch feed with vu plus solo2.
I have a motorized 115 emme esse with inverto black ultra and live in slovakia.

Sorry for my bad english.

yes if you enter the details... if its 4.2.2 then use vlc ,regards mdt
 

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Best Blind Scan Receiver for Feed Hunting Nov 20th 2013

Best Blind Scan Receiver for Feed Hunting

Blind Scan HD satellite receivers for Feed Hunting update November 20th 2013

After trying several other HD Blind Scan receivers over the last 6 months I have now made the Technomate TM5302 HD the best for Feed Hunting.

The Top 5

1/Technomate TM5302HD (Blind scan range of 600 to 45.000 symbol rate) reliability scores 95%
Display includes Symbol Rate, Modulation type DVB-S QPSK DVB-S2 8PSK or DVB-S2 QPSK,FEC,MPEG-2,MPEG-4, (APSK when found in search but does not display atm,)
Bit rates for Video & Audio displayed,Frame rate,TS Info,ECM & BER readouts,
Blind Scan is set @ 6MHz steps finds all transponders from 1000 to 45,000 symbol rate,
The Blind Scan is available in these MHz steps 1-2-3-4-6-8-16 & 32
For 98% of feeds found @ 6MHz steps - @ 4 MHz will find some lower symbol rates in the 800 to 45,000 range,
After the recent upgrades the TM5302HD has just got better & better for Feed Hunting,

2/Spiderbox HD9900 (Blind scan range of 600 to 45.000 symbol rate) reliability scores 90%
Display includes: Frequency,Symbol Rate, Modulation type DVB-S QPSK DVB-S2 8PSK or DVB-S2 QPSK,
8 MHz stepped blind finds all transponders with symbol rates
1,800 to 45,000 S/R
6 MHz stepped blind scan finds all transponders with symbol rates 1,500 to 45,000 S/R
4 MHz blind scan finds all transponders 1,200 to 45,000 S/R

3/Spiderbox HD9000 (Blind scan range of 500 to 45.000 symbol rate) reliability 90%
Blind Scan Specification as Spiderbox HD 9900

4/AZBox Premium HD+ (Blind scan range of 500 to 45.000 symbol rate) reliability scores 90%
+ 4:2:2 capability on the AZBox
The stepped Blind scan @ 5 MHz finds most transponders with symbol rates from 1,500 to 45,000
AZBox P+ is let down by poor support & has not kept up with recent developements such as avc codec, elecard & MPEG-4 in 4:2:2

5/TM6900HDSuper+ (Blind scan range of 2000 to 45.000 symbol rate) reliability scores 90%
Stepped Blind Scan @ 4 MHz finds most transponders 2,200 to 45,000

The TM6900HD would have scored higher but for these issues
(Overwrites symbol rates with the next active transponder when within 4MHz so that 12734 H 2170 becomes 12734 becomes 2604 as the next transponder is 12738 H 2604 on 10 east & effectively wipes out the channel data,) cannot find symbol rates below 2000cps,

Technomate TM5302HD is without doubt the best Blind Scan receiver for Feed Hunters.

Others tested TM5402HD Super M1,Blade 7000s, DrHD D15 all exibited the same Blind Scan fault of 45,000 symbol rate found when a low symbol rate is in use so not included in Best blind Scan Receiver,

Other developements The TM5402HD with the latest software has started to display Multi Streams not perfected atm but looks interesting.

Regards...........William-1
 
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