cudabiss guide ? tutorial

bogyman

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hello all

anyone have tutorial for cudabiss ?
how start searching and ts analyzing ?
pause and resume search

best regards
 

dale_para_bajo

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I am looking for info.

I will like to know about Cudabiss speed.
Well I wonder why no one mention anything on this tool.
Why not is not use?

Without java the search on this forum does not work. So I did search the net. I found and old comment done by kebien it reads

A prepared pc running cudabiss and 4 video cards can do the full range in a month or so

Is this a good estimate value, about 4 month of search for full range?
 

gotya

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I am looking for info.

I will like to know about Cudabiss speed.
Well I wonder why no one mention anything on this tool.
Why not is not use?

Without java the search on this forum does not work. So I did search the net. I found and old comment done by kebien it reads

A prepared pc running cudabiss and 4 video cards can do the full range in a month or so

Is this a good estimate value, about 4 month of search for full range?

the only guide and tutorial info that I found before is this pdf file and made by Engineerkhan15

EnJoY
 

K2TSET

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I am looking for info.
Is this a good estimate value, about 4 month of search for full range?

Depend on your numbers on cudacores and the version of cudabiss (some support more cores than other)

On a GTX970 with 1664 cuda cores: Crunching along at 305790944 keys/s Time to go: 255hours 35minutes

So about 10+ days for a full search in mode 1
 

kebien

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I am looking for info.

I will like to know about Cudabiss speed.
Well I wonder why no one mention anything on this tool.
Why not is not use?

Without java the search on this forum does not work. So I did search the net. I found and old comment done by kebien it reads



Is this a good estimate value, about 4 month of search for full range?

Who say is not in use?
Most people that are setup with nvidia cards been using this tool for years.
In some situations you can find CW that might not be found with your rainbow tables.(just because your tables might not be big enough)
It was a project started at DVBN,happysat forum,and if I remember correctly we were testing versions 2.x (about 18 search modes) and up,not sure the author ever released them to the public.
Found in readme
Code:
Release history:
v2.02
-more modes

v2.01
-more speed in modes 1,7 & 9

v1.86
-minor speed improvement
-more modes
-added Fermi optimized versions(for GTX460/465/470/480)

v1.85
-added yet another mode
-(finally!) added a 32bit version(that hopefully works ok)

v1.84 (never released)
-fixed a speed problem from the 2 previous versions that was caused by a compiling issue
-added another mode
 

dale_para_bajo

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@kebien sorry. ok it is in use. But look how many post has been post in this area, close to nothing. So may be in use, but people do not mention it.

@K2TSET

Wao that is way of what I have been reading. Big difference from 40 days/ or a month, to 10 hours??

Are you sure on that? Can you tell me what version you are using?

If that number 305790944 keys/s is still good I will love to see Source Code. I wonder the author may had overcome the delay associated to reading Sbox/Permutation tables.
 

K2TSET

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Wao that is way of what I have been reading. Big difference from 40 days/ or a month, to 10 hours??

Are you sure on that? Can you tell me what version you are using?

If that number 305790944 keys/s is still good I will love to see Source Code. I wonder the author may had overcome the delay associated to reading Sbox/Permutation tables.

10 days not hours for cudabiss, for 12 hours you need FPGA.

V2.02 are out there, just search for it.

Sourrcecode is not public as far I know. BUT if you view the exe file you will see the cuda .cu code listed in the exe file... some crazy thing of the dev tool.

CudaBiss sure have the s-box and perm in the BC and it is still the killing (slow) part algo. the SC are made as bitslicing incl the 7-sboxes.

If you use some of the cuda analyze tools you will see that BC take like 98% of the time on the cuda cores vs 2% or less for the SC.
 

Stefan2k16

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Keep in mind that you can run multiple instances of cudabiss and each of those instances can run on a different card. So, if you have a system with 4 GTX 970s and you ran an instance on each card, it would be more like 2 and a half days. Also this is the time required to search the entire key range. Therefore it's a worst case scenario where the key would be FFFFFFFFFFFF. On average your search time will be about half that. Sometimes you'll get lucky and find the key early.
 

dale_para_bajo

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@K2TSET
I see the STRINGS of .cu inside the Cuda exe files. But I do not belive there is a TXT C++ file inside that exe. It is more like a half binary machine code for Nvidia. Well a GOOD SMART programmer may have use for it. But I am not at that level. But If you know how to do that I will strangly be thanks you if you can PM me with the C code. Listen I do not need a simple general code to do what CudaBiss do. I understand the theory. What I will like to see the CU code use on Cudabiss assuming is that fast. 10 Days is good number for now. So if you have anything to offer please send me that PM.

@ALL

1rst thanks to all, but I was not trying to use the tool. I was getting info and understanding why people did not talk about it.

I personally do not have CUDA GPU so I could not get that info my self. My Card is AMD. Now from 30 to 10 days that is still good improved. I had done some test on OpenCl and it is hard to get close that 10 days. Well we hope miserably for that nice 1 day!
 
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