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I'm Fluffy from Holland. I use the Vantage HD 8000s Twin PVR for watching and recording from Atra1, 2 3 and Hotbird through 8/1 EPM Vantage DiSeQC on the VisioSat BigSat dish with four ALPS (the white slim ones). I also use the Pioneer VSX-LX60 receiver, BDP-LX71 Blu-Ray player, and Pioneer 508D...