Is it worth using V1 tables?
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This is from the documentation for the V2 tool on Colibri's website.
This is a message you'll see on his site.
So, the answer is yes. There's a very good reason to continue using version 1. You or anyone else can continue to make chains for the version 1 tool and the success rate can grow. You or anyone else can also continue to make chains for version 2, but since they must be added to the Chain author map file and Colibri has stated that he will no longer update this file, to do so is useless. So, that means there's a good reason to stick with version 1 and not go to version 2 .
If you read the documentation for version 2, the same documentation I copied the first quote from, you'll see the main purpose of version 2 was to increase the speed at which a CW could be found. The goal there was to get it under 10 seconds. It seems the motivation for this was to possibly target systems where the control word changes every few seconds and the goal was to develop code and tables that could possibly be adapted to those type systems. However, for fixed cw systems, like biss, V1 is probably what you should stick with.
If it says you need a bigger table, then you need a bigger table with more chains. You can make them yourself or you can download them. The pascal cards are fast at making chains.
Note however, the rainbow table method is not perfect. The whole approach relies on filling bytes being added to the packets. If a stream doesn't have these filling bytes or if the streams that do have filling bytes, like the audio stream, are left unencrypted, this method cannot work. when that happens you will know it because there will be no crypt8 found in the stream. For those type of streams only a bruteforce will work.
This is a message you'll see on his site.
So, the answer is yes. There's a very good reason to continue using version 1. You or anyone else can continue to make chains for the version 1 tool and the success rate can grow. You or anyone else can also continue to make chains for version 2, but since they must be added to the Chain author map file and Colibri has stated that he will no longer update this file, to do so is useless. So, that means there's a good reason to stick with version 1 and not go to version 2 .
If you read the documentation for version 2, the same documentation I copied the first quote from, you'll see the main purpose of version 2 was to increase the speed at which a CW could be found. The goal there was to get it under 10 seconds. It seems the motivation for this was to possibly target systems where the control word changes every few seconds and the goal was to develop code and tables that could possibly be adapted to those type systems. However, for fixed cw systems, like biss, V1 is probably what you should stick with.
If it says you need a bigger table, then you need a bigger table with more chains. You can make them yourself or you can download them. The pascal cards are fast at making chains.
Note however, the rainbow table method is not perfect. The whole approach relies on filling bytes being added to the packets. If a stream doesn't have these filling bytes or if the streams that do have filling bytes, like the audio stream, are left unencrypted, this method cannot work. when that happens you will know it because there will be no crypt8 found in the stream. For those type of streams only a bruteforce will work.
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Ok now I understand, thank you.
So my aim must be to use v2 tool to create more v1 chains to increase success. My 1TB ssd is now full, so if I create new chains and add them, must I buy another ssd? As the size will just keep getting bigger and bigger in GB?
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So my aim must be to use v2 tool to create more v1 chains to increase success. My 1TB ssd is now full, so if I create new chains and add them, must I buy another ssd? As the size will just keep getting bigger and bigger in GB?
Regards
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v1 has higher success rate than v2 for Colibri's tables. But if you never got any cw with v1 maybe you are using the wrong table for your stream (b8hx00h instead of b8hxffh, etc.)
I have done a lot of reading lately but maybe im wrong as there is a lot of info to take in.
I only downloaded B8hx00h,B8hx00h,B8hx030000. I read that they are the ones to use, so I didnt use 08hxFFh,08hxFFh,08hx000300h.
Is this where I am making a big mistake? I have been running C8 through all 3 tables just to be sure im not trying the wrong one.
I only downloaded B8hx00h,B8hx00h,B8hx030000. I read that they are the ones to use, so I didnt use 08hxFFh,08hxFFh,08hx000300h.
Is this where I am making a big mistake? I have been running C8 through all 3 tables just to be sure im not trying the wrong one.
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What do you enter for PL size when you search for the c8? Empty means 184 (=B8). Also try * to see if any other payload has a higher count. Also, my success rate was lower when I had some corrupt chains. Use the rbtedit tool to check your tables.
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Do you have a link to download the rbtedit tool? I saw one in an old thread but was no longer active.
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You check using Colibri's CSA Rainbow Table Tool http://www.sat-universe.com/showpost.php?p=2036632425&postcount=2
You remove bad chains with xosef1234's rbtedit tool http://www.sat-universe.com/showpost.php?p=2036755735&postcount=57
You remove bad chains with xosef1234's rbtedit tool http://www.sat-universe.com/showpost.php?p=2036755735&postcount=57
Yes I have just been leaving it empty, I will try other payloads too. I will check for corrupt chains and report back, however I havent had chance to create any of my own yet, only what I got from colibri's site.
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Maybe a Unicode issue. Try moving all files to \RBT
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You need to include the file name in the link not just the destination folder
All 3 tables have been checked and there are no errors
For the 3 : B8hx00h,B8hxFFh,B8hx030000h you will need a 1TB SSD Everyone seems to say to use those, although I must admit I dont know why.
The 08hx00h,08hxFFh,09hx000300h are approx 1.3TB. Im not sure if these need to be also downloaded as they have a higher success rate, but I dont see many mention them. Im sure an expert can tell you the reason.
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I have v2 running. I want to create and share new chains. I read this in the documentation:
'First ensure that you have added all chains shared by the community to your own RBT.
Then get the newest “ChainAuthor.map” and select it in the tool.
Then add all your own created chains to your RBT'
My question..How do I add all the chains shared by the community to my RBT? Where are these?
Does this mean download all the tables manually from colibri's website? Or something else?
I am confused, if someone can help I would be grateful.
'First ensure that you have added all chains shared by the community to your own RBT.
Then get the newest “ChainAuthor.map” and select it in the tool.
Then add all your own created chains to your RBT'
My question..How do I add all the chains shared by the community to my RBT? Where are these?
Does this mean download all the tables manually from colibri's website? Or something else?
I am confused, if someone can help I would be grateful.
Thank that workied, Files still not opening "not valid achive" .